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Garn's bombshell blows away lawmakers
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | March 12, 2010 | Robert Gehrke

Posted on 03/13/2010 7:44:27 AM PST by Colofornian

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From the article: The revelation was a gut-punch on the normally festive closing night of the session, which opened under a cloud after the sudden resignation of Garn's counterpart, Senate Majority Leader Sheldon Killpack, R-Syracuse, after he was arrested for drunken driving weeks before the Legislature convened. "To basically have it bookend the legislative session is really quite striking," said University of Utah political science professor Matthew Burbank.

From the article: The speaker's comments drew a loud ovation from representatives --a show of support that some observers thought was distasteful. Conservative blogger Holly Richardson was on-hand for the bombshell and said she understands that, while Garn's colleagues may have been paying respect for his service, "I still thought it was outrageous. He just admitted to paying $150,000 to a woman who he had had an inappropriate encounter with when he was twice her age," she said. "He was married. He was in the hot tub naked with this young girl and to have any kind of applause or anything was just stunning."

1 posted on 03/13/2010 7:44:28 AM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
One more piece about the same old thing.

I thought the LDS weren't into this sort of thing anymore ~ just the FLDS.

Maybe we can recycle all our posts from last year!

In the meantime, he got caught and if he's a Republican he needs to step down. If he's a Democrat he should hang on a bit longer to prove to us they have some heterosexuals over there ~

2 posted on 03/13/2010 7:50:00 AM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: Colofornian

It sure took a lot of work reading that article trying to figure out that this guy was a Democrat. That couldn’t have been an editorial oversight could it?


3 posted on 03/13/2010 7:50:25 AM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Enjoy nature - eat meat, wear fur and drive your car!)
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From the article: 2008, Maher sent a letter to LDS President Thomas S. Monson, laying out her allegations against Garn.

Who knew what when?

Monson has been the 16th President-"Prophet" of the church since Feb. 3, 2008. Did he cover this up?

Lds reporters @ the Deseret News, owned by the Lds church, were falling all over themselves in yesterday's article on this (see House Majority Leader Kevin Garn admits to incident with girl in past ) trying to explain why they knew the details about this in 2002 and yet didn't publish them.

4 posted on 03/13/2010 7:53:44 AM PST by Colofornian (If you're not going to drink the coffee, at least wake up and smell it.)
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To: Colofornian
I'm not condoning or defending what he did or did not do. But isn't the young lady and her “husband” committing extortion in this case?
5 posted on 03/13/2010 7:54:28 AM PST by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 393)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry
I'm really not sure. If I were into Utah politics no doubt I'd know, but frankly I'm not.

This guy could be a COTFB type, or maybe FLDS just cruising along kinda' undercover.

Makes me wonder how many husbands that woman has had. The article certainly indicates she's had MORE THAN ONE, now is it 2, or 5, or maybe 10?

There could be a lot more stuff going on here than anyone ever imagined.

6 posted on 03/13/2010 7:54:58 AM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: bitterohiogunclinger
Oh, they're blackmailers all right.

But you can't blackmail an honest man.

7 posted on 03/13/2010 7:57:45 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

All that wasted effort on your part. If Garn was a democrat why would he be running in a Republican primary.


8 posted on 03/13/2010 8:01:56 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Thanks for the clarification. Perhaps I need more caffeine this morning to focus my eyes.


9 posted on 03/13/2010 8:03:55 AM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Enjoy nature - eat meat, wear fur and drive your car!)
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To: bitterohiogunclinger
But isn't the young lady and her “husband” committing extortion in this case?

She's no longer married. The request for $ was 8 yrs. ago. And in this article, the legislator described it this way: "I will be happy to pay $150,000 to Cheryl and hope that will bring some degree of peace in her life," Garn wrote in a Jan. 21, 2003, e-mail

I guess Garn thought'd it be "peaceful" -- therapeutic.

If you're Garn in 2002 discussing this with Lds Deseret journalists, & you want them to sit on this kind of story, what would you present it as: blackmail or therapeutic healing $? (Obviously, the latter, lest you fuel more of a temptation to publish it...obviously, it must not have been too tempting for Deseret to publish it since they didn't...hence, Deseret now spends a good chunk of today's article trying to justify why they should be considered real journalists given they patronizingly censored the information from public eyes).

Of course, waffling from one emphasis of your storyline to another is always problematic, damage-control wise. How so in this case? Well, if Kevin Garn was motivated at some point to present this as a "therapeutic healing or peace-filled gift" -- at least that'd be a nice story to present to his wife/family/Deseret News -- then why apparently didn't any ask him re: the ever-so-obvious follow-up question:

"Kevin, why would a woman need $150,000 to therapeutically heal from sharing the same water with you...? (Assuming, Kevin, that for the most part, the bubbled water & night time covered up most that might otherwise be revealed)"

"Kevin!!!?"

"Kevin!!!!!!!!!???" [Think of the movie series "Home Alone" when Kevin's screen mom repeatedly calls out his name, louder & louder each time, with no response]

"Kevin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????"

But Garn likely felt he had to commit to that legal angle in 2002 -- that it wasn't paid as blackmail or a bribe. But now that this is coming out, Garn said yesterday's SL Trib article that he "believed" he was being "extorted" back then; but he paid her the money and had his attorney draft a non-disclosure agreement, where she said she would not go public with her story.

So, in 2002 he legally committed to maintaining one posture to avoid ethical entanglements of catering to blackmail...
...which was all to avoid ethical (& possibly legal) entanglements of conceding to being naked in a hot tub with a minor...
...but now it's 2010 and in order to try to "new hand of Black Jack" he decides he's going to go ahead & try the "she's a blackmailer" angle since that works a little better under these circumstances.

But, you see, all this shows is that's he a spiritual chameleon, changing colors according to what works best ethically for the current situation.

10 posted on 03/13/2010 8:04:55 AM PST by Colofornian (If you're not going to drink the coffee, at least wake up and smell it.)
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Didn’t the girl make a deal previously instead of making him accountable and what does she hope to gain by bringing it out now?


11 posted on 03/13/2010 8:06:53 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

“”Garn could not be reached Friday. Davis County Republican Chairwoman Shirley Bowhuis said she has not spoken with the representative but expects he will share his decision when he makes up his mind. “”

Why do you think he’s a Dem? If he was, why would the Republican Chairwoman be interested in his decision?


12 posted on 03/13/2010 8:09:17 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: Thank You Rush

I’ve already acknowledged my error.


13 posted on 03/13/2010 8:12:01 AM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Enjoy nature - eat meat, wear fur and drive your car!)
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To: freekitty
Didn’t the girl make a deal previously instead of making him accountable and what does she hope to gain by bringing it out now?

Yes. A 2002 agreement.

According to today's Deseret News: She said she does not want to talk about specifics because she wants the focus not on Garn's actions but on "the devastation of my life because of sexual abuse that happens to so many." She hopes that by talking, "others will come forward, too." Later, she sent an e-mail to the Deseret News saying that she was working for Garn at the Pegasus record store he owned in 1985. She also said he had been her LDS Sunday School teacher when she was in fourth grade. She described what she says was a relationship that lasted many months.
See Cheryl Maher says Kevin Garn lied about hot tub contact

14 posted on 03/13/2010 8:12:44 AM PST by Colofornian (If you're not going to drink the coffee, at least wake up and smell it.)
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"If Garn was a democrat why would he be running in a Republican primary."

"No, thats just what they'll be expecting us to do."

15 posted on 03/13/2010 8:13:57 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

“”I’ve already acknowledged my error.””

I read the later posts..I was hoping it wasn’t me! Do admit it was pretty confusing reading and perhaps it’s too early for me also!


16 posted on 03/13/2010 8:14:59 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: freekitty

More money.


17 posted on 03/13/2010 8:27:55 AM PST by Jedidah (Character, courage, common sense are more important than issues.)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

>>It sure took a lot of work reading that article trying to figure out that this guy was a Democrat. That couldn’t have been an editorial oversight could it?<<

Thank you! I never did find it. Yep, clearly an editorial oversight. After all, they mentioned that the other guy who resigned under pressure was a Republican right away.


18 posted on 03/13/2010 8:48:04 AM PST by Norseman (Term Limits: 8 years is enough!)
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To: muawiyah
"After an initial meeting with Garn and his wife in Maher's LDS bishop's office, Garn sent her a check from his personal account for $20,000, which she rejected. Maher said her husband at the time wanted more."

So do you think her bishop was in the same office?? I can't imagine a bishop letting someone use his office for extortion and bribery unless he is present. I wonder if there was a fee for the use of the office, possibly 10%? Why would Garn and his wife need to meet together in the office of Maher's bishop? Was their dinning room table already taken?

OK enough with my BS spin. So the LDS church was compliant in extortion and the cover up of a crime committed by an elected official. Seems par for the course.
19 posted on 03/13/2010 8:54:17 AM PST by pennyfarmer (Your Socialist Beat our Liberal)
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To: Colofornian
Ok granted, Garn is a creep. But...

paid her $150,000 as part of an agreement to conceal the story

Hasn't Maher broken this agreement by talking to reporters, and thus the law? Shouldn't she be charged? Or sued for the $150,000 plus damages?

20 posted on 03/13/2010 8:54:38 AM PST by montag813
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