Hi Grams! Just a little something from me to thank you for updating the will and keeping the insurance current!
Posted on 03/10/2010 12:31:31 PM PST by bruinbirdman
Healthy elderly people who are simply "tired of living" could be allowed to end their lives with a lethal injection under new euthanasia laws being debated by the Dutch parliament.
The country's MPs will discuss the "right to die" proposals after a campaign forced a debate by collecting over 100,000 signatures in support.
The influential Dutch "Right to Die" campaign, active since 1973, has launched new "vrijwillig levenseinde", or "of free will", demands to extend euthanasia beyond assisted suicide for terminally ill people.
The group has proposed training non-medical staff to administer a lethal injection to healthy people over the age of 70 who "consider their lives complete" and want to die.
Under the plans, the suicide assistants would be certified and would be required to make sure that patients were not temporarily depressed and had a "heartfelt and enduring desire" to die.
Marie-Jose Grotenhuis, the campaign's spokeswoman, said: "We've been overwhelmed by the amount of reactions, especially because people took it so seriously and reactions were mostly positive."
Euthanasia was legalised in Holland in 2002 and the new proposals have been backed by the majority of people in Dutch opinion polls.
The Royal Dutch Medical Association is divided over calls to extend euthanasia beyond those suffering from painful terminal illnesses and has set up a committee to examine the proposals.
Sander Hofman, the association's spokesman, said: "For instance, a doctor probably has a role in easing the suffering of a person who is refusing to eat or drink."
Several European countries, including neighbouring Belgium, allow euthanasia for terminally ill people who wish to die. Britain and France allow terminally ill people to refuse medical treatment but stop short of allowing active assisted suicide.
The Dutch legalisation for euthanasia for the terminally ill was preceded by decades of negotiations that
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“No thanks. I’m going HOME.”
Hi Grams! Just a little something from me to thank you for updating the will and keeping the insurance current!
What they miss, is that a “right” to commit suicide, soon becomes quiet pressure to do so, when others might view your life as not having any more use.
The day will quickly arrive that a person who is in their late 80s, and needing some assistance but refusing to commit suicide, will be viewed as greedy and selfish.
Instead, the Dutch should pass a law that would make the crime of attempting suicide punishable by death.
European idiocy.
Dutch plan to HELP elderly “empty eaters” people commit suicide.
And how long is it going to be till they’re encouraged and then forced to end their lives.
For all the deathbots who advocate for murder in the form of assisted suicide, this will be a situation to watch, although it’s almost too much to hope they’ll learn.
Three key words there, all of which have long been negotiable when coming from socialist dictatorships. “Old, Healthy and Let”, translate into “help, enemies, burdens and malcontents into the showers”. That kind of caught on in Berlin a few years back.
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When you use the second number and the Capitol operator comes on, just ask for your Rep or Senator’s office
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Never mind about the so-called “fixit bill”: the way to defeat Obamacare is is by defeating the Senate bill in the House when it goes to the floor for an up-or-down vote on Thursday, March 18th.
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PLEASE ASK THEM TO REPEAL THE BIG NEW FEES in TRICARE for Life, the retired Military over 65 secondary health ins. which they passed in a DOD bill. They promised our Military these benefits, and our Military have earned them.
Sen Scott Brown’s number is 202-224-4543
Capitol Hill switchboard is 202-224-3121
Lots of local demwit phone numbers on this thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2408217/posts
Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military’s secondary health ins. (DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011 NEEDS TO BE REPEALED!
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OBAMA’s WAR ON SENIORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2433867/posts/
New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake.
Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security, http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security
Health Care Rationing for Seniors Another Problem in New Obama Plan http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html
Medicare tax may apply to investment income (ObamaCare tax hike)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2460988/posts
Obama: No reduced Medicare benefits in health care reform
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/28/obama.health.care/index.html
Will healthcare reform mean cuts in Medicare for seniors?
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2009/1017/will-healthcare-reform-mean-cuts-in-medicare-for-seniors
Health Reform’s Hidden Victims Young people and seniors would pay a high price for ObamaCare.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203517304574306303720472842.html
Defaulted Loans May Haunt Seniors (Cuts SS CHECKS)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2467213/posts
Obama to outline $313 billion in Medicare, Medicaid spending cuts
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Veterans’ G.I. Bill benefits MIA
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TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:
http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html
This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.) http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf
Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09
Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries
Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w/
By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009
Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.
The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.
Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.
“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.
Or who are made to feel guilty for using limited medical resources that could go to their children and grandchildren.
Notify Pelosi. Sounds like her kind of a plan.
Some FReepers will probably be along shortly to say the same thing.
Someone I know had a family member try to starve themselves to death (age in the 60s) because they were severely depressed. Went to a nutritionally oriented neuropsychiatrist who was able to turn this around. Incidentally, they have discovered that vitamin D deficiency can cause depression, especially “winter depression” They now say people should have from 1,000 to 2,000 units a day instead of only 400.
Everytime I read about the Dutch “progress” of this sick expedient view of life I think back to the great poem of Dylan Thomas, “Do not go gentle into that good night”.
Man’s duty is to live and even though our “quality of life” may be deminished it is our duty to fight for that last breath. The hereafter is not to be feared and it is a “good night” but our Christian duty is to live and help others to live.
Perhaps a Dutch Dylan Thomas will write, “oh how I hate to see you suffer, make me comfortable by dying” but that does not show love as Thomas’ poem did.
do you really believe people will be forced to kill themselves? I don’t
They can pry the gun that I use to kill myself out of my cold dead hand.
Or something.
Yes. There are nations that already allow the INVOLUNTARY euthanasia of minors.
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