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Are Democrats choosing to run off a cliff with ObamaCare?
Hotair ^ | 02/27/2010 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 02/28/2010 9:25:48 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Republicans have reacted with understandable glee to the Democratic insistence on extending the debate on ObamaCare. After all, we are coming up on eight months since the Democrats first introduced this bill and attempted to rush it through Congress. In that time, their polling has plunged, grassroots reaction has exploded, and a popular new President has seen his standing rapidly fall with voters. The midterms look like a disaster already, and a last-ditch effort by Democrats to use parliamentary tricks to pass a broadly unpopular bill will only make that worse.

Are Democrats acting irrationally, refusing to see the cliff in front of them? Andy McCarthy says no — and that Republicans need to understand that:

I hear Republicans getting giddy over the fact that “reconciliation,” if it comes to that, is a huge political loser. That’s the wrong way to look at it. The Democratic leadership has already internalized the inevitablility of taking its political lumps. That makes reconciliation truly scary. Since the Dems know they will have to ram this monstrosity through, they figure it might as well be as monstrous as they can get wavering Democrats to go along with. Clipping the leadership’s statist ambitions in order to peel off a few Republicans is not going to work. I’m glad Republicans have held firm, but let’s not be under any illusions about what that means. In the Democrat leadership, we are not dealing with conventional politicians for whom the goal of being reelected is paramount and will rein in their radicalism. They want socialized medicine and all it entails about government control even more than they want to win elections. After all, if the party of government transforms the relationship between the citizen and the state, its power over our lives will be vast even in those cycles when it is not in the majority. This is about power, and there is more to power than winning elections, especially if you’ve calculated that your opposition does not have the gumption to dismantle your ballooning welfare state.

Consequently, the next six weeks, like the next ten months, are going to be worse than we think. We’re wired to think that everyone plays by the ususal rules of politics — i.e., if the tide starts to change, the side against whom it has turned modifies its positions in order to stay viable in the next election. But what will happen here will be the opposite. You have a party with the numbers to do anything it puts its mind to, led by movement Leftitsts who see their window of opportunity is closing. We seem to expect them to moderate because that’s what everybody in their position does. But they won’t. They will put their heads down and go for as much transformation as they can get, figuring that once they get it, it will never be rolled back. The only question is whether there are enough Democrats who are conventional politicians and who care about being reelected, such that they will deny the leadership the numbers it needs. But I don’t think we should take much heart in this possibility. Those Democrats may well come to think they are going to lose anyway — that’s why so many of them are abandoning ship now. If that’s the case, their incentive will be to vote with the leadership.

Andy has a point. The American political system has remained stable mainly because its political parties have remained rational over our history. That rationality has been mainly based on the accepted principle that there isn’t more to power in our system than winning elections, which can create short-sighted leadership at times, but also discourages sweeping changes to the country by a party on a political suicide mission. A party with a leadership of zealots, though, could choose to use a two-year session of Congress to fundamentally remake America if it accepted a humiliating loss of power as the necessary trade-off.

However, that would require all of the politicians of that party to follow suit, and that’s where the Democratic leadership has a big problem. They didn’t gain the majority by elected over 300 cardboard cutouts of Nancy Pelosi as Representatives and Senators. While Andy is spot-on about Pelosi and her clique being descendants of the New Left radicals of the 1960s (as is Barack Obama), that’s not true for a large portion of their caucus, especially those representing red districts and red states. Not only is political suicide much more likely for them than it is for Pelosi, Anthony Weiner, Jarrold Nadler, et al, they’re temperamentally different from the leadership clique as well.

That doesn’t mean that they can’t get bulldozed into compliance, but it does make it a more difficult proposition for Pelosi to hold her caucus together. We’re already seeing signs of it splintering, and as this effort gets closer to the midterm elections, that will increase proportionately. Blue Dogs are already unhappy with the direction of ObamaCare — and so are progressives, but for diametrically opposed reasons. The summit may have helped to pull recalcitrant moderates in line, but Democrats got punked at the televised spectacle and have no fig leaf to wear to support a radical mechanism in pushing through a radical bill.

Andy may be right that Democratic leadership has made the decision that political oblivion is an acceptable cost for a one-time remaking of America that Republicans will find difficult to reverse in the next session. However, I suspect that this strategy doesn’t account for the fact that the people who will actually have to end their careers may not appreciate getting forced into marching off a cliff while the leadership stays safely in their rear-echelon bastions of San Francisco and New York City.

Update: Nick Jacob reminds me on Twitter of what my friend (and new Salem colleague) Dennis Prager told Republicans earlier this month:

Most people on the Left are True Believers. This is critical to understand. They are willing to lose Congress; Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are prepared to lose both houses to get this through. Why? Because losing an election cycle means nothing compared to taking over more of the American economy.

I can give you an example from our side. There are many folks on our side who, if they could pass an amendment against abortion, would happily sacrifice both houses for a period of time. Understand that just as strongly as some are pro-life or religiously Christian or Jewish, that is how strongly many leftists believe in leftism. Leftism is a substitute religion. For the Left, the “health care” bill transcends politics. You are fighting people who will go down with the ship in order to transform this country to a leftist one. And an ever-expanding state is the Left’s central credo.

Prager is certainly correct about all of the points here, but the question will be whether most of their caucuses are willing to follow them — or more accurately, precede them — into political oblivion.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; 2010midterms; 2010polls; bhohealthcare; democrats; healthcare; obamacare
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1 posted on 02/28/2010 9:25:48 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Blue Dogs should just switch to RINO Republicans. It is their only hope.


2 posted on 02/28/2010 9:28:46 AM PST by screaminsunshine (i)
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To: SeekAndFind
Most people on the Left are True Believers. This is critical to understand. They are willing to lose Congress; Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are prepared to lose both houses to get this through. Why? Because losing an election cycle means nothing compared to taking over more of the American economy.

Rock and a hard place. If they show up at the mid-terms elections with no health care and only huge deficits they are toast. Either way... I think they have screwed themselves real good. I like it!

3 posted on 02/28/2010 9:29:08 AM PST by avacado
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To: SeekAndFind

They’re not running off a cliff. They will have control over billions and billions of tax dollars to do with as they please.

IMHO


4 posted on 02/28/2010 9:30:26 AM PST by ripley
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To: SeekAndFind

They’re going to push 40million illegals onto the voter roles by this summer, so they don’t give one shit what Americans or even blacks think any more.

These people are criminals.


5 posted on 02/28/2010 9:30:28 AM PST by capacommie
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To: SeekAndFind

They’ll go right to the edge, look down and then make their excuse for not doing it.


6 posted on 02/28/2010 9:30:39 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: SeekAndFind

Democrats in the House are going to first be asked to pass the Senate bill with the “promise” that reconciliation will be used to “fix” it afterwards.

Well, what about the abortion language? The Senate bill funds abortion with taxpayer dollars. No Democrat Senator is going to use “reconciliation” to change that.

Any House Democrat who votes for the Senate bill will be voting to fund abortion with tax dollars. That’s the fact. And, if they do it, we will hang the aborted babies paid for by their “health care reform” around their neck for the rest of their political lives!


7 posted on 02/28/2010 9:31:16 AM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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To: capacommie
blacks meaning as a American minority voting block--being replaced by 40million amnestied hispanics
8 posted on 02/28/2010 9:32:05 AM PST by capacommie
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To: SeekAndFind

The eternal fight between good and evil.


9 posted on 02/28/2010 9:33:28 AM PST by MtnClimber (A government powerful enough to determine my quality-adjusted life years is no longer limited govt!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Are Republicans monitoring and putting in place sufficient controls to assure that there can be an honest election in 2010? If not, then every responsible citizen needs to press their representatives to do so.

Such over confidence on the part of Pelosi, Reid, and Obama is so foolish, by ordinary reason and logic, is it that it may have more to do with confidence in ability to control the voting process than in a willingness to lose seats--as this writer suggests?

10 posted on 02/28/2010 9:37:18 AM PST by loveliberty2
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To: SeekAndFind

11 posted on 02/28/2010 9:40:27 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: screaminsunshine

Does anybody know what percent of the Democrat party are union members and what percent are suckers?


12 posted on 02/28/2010 9:41:04 AM PST by The Duke
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To: SeekAndFind

Never. Statist (good-statist/bad-satist/I’m-the-solution-statist) con-men, criminals, liars, deceivers will push the rest of us off a cliff and get away with it.


13 posted on 02/28/2010 9:41:59 AM PST by PGalt
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To: SeekAndFind

They want socialized medicine and all it entails about government control even more than they want to win elections. After all, if the party of government transforms the relationship between the citizen and the state, its power over our lives will be vast even in those cycles when it is not in the majority. This is about power, and there is more to power than winning elections, especially if you’ve calculated that your opposition does not have the gumption to dismantle your ballooning welfare state.
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This is all that this “bill” is about. Pure and simple. It has never been about anything BUT POWER AND CONTROL.


14 posted on 02/28/2010 9:42:04 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: SeekAndFind
This is what wars are fought for... The American people were attacked and have been at war since the campaign of 2008 and don't even know it. Wars are usually fought over politics... The American people voted away their liberty and their freedom when they were “bedazzled” by the “TROJAN HORSE” called “Hope and Change”.
15 posted on 02/28/2010 9:42:28 AM PST by Bob Eimiller (appeasement "it's the idea that if you feed the alligator he will eat you last." Winston Churchill)
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To: SeekAndFind

This seems easy. Dems pass this plan. Americans hate the plan. Vote Dems out and GOP in. GOP ends the program and become a hero to the people and a fixture in the Legislature from which conservative agenda is attempted.

I see only good in what is going on.


16 posted on 02/28/2010 9:42:42 AM PST by awake-n-angry
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To: awake-n-angry
"GOP ends the program and become a hero to the people and a fixture in the Legislature from which conservative agenda is attempted."

Well, they're not going to end the plan anytime before Jan 20, 2013 thanks to the veto. The fact of the matter is if this passes, socialized medicine becomes all but an inevitability, and the Dems know it. Once they take over 1/6th of the US economy, they'll eventualy become the permanent majority party, irrespective of this fall's hiccup.

Look at Social Security. Roosevelt enacted Social Security and the Dems controlled the House for at least 40 of the next 44 years.

17 posted on 02/28/2010 9:51:06 AM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: ripley
"Billions" -- you're off by three orders of magnitude. Try 1/6 of our $13 TRILLION economy -- in other words, they would command $2,000 BILLION of the economy and destroy your very liberty and freedom as a citizen.
18 posted on 02/28/2010 9:52:46 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: SeekAndFind
Dennis Prager told Republicans earlier this month: Most people on the Left are True Believers. This is critical to understand. They are willing to lose Congress; Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are prepared to lose both houses to get this through. Why? Because losing an election cycle means nothing compared to taking over more of the American economy.

Amen.

Socialists/Communists/Marxists are very, very patient bastards. Look at their gradual takeover of the Media and the Universities. Not to mention the Democrat Party.

19 posted on 02/28/2010 9:57:21 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. - H. L. Menken.)
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To: awake-n-angry
This seems easy. Dems pass this plan. Americans hate the plan. Vote Dems out and GOP in. GOP ends the program and become a hero to the people and a fixture in the Legislature from which conservative agenda is attempted.

Sounds nice, eh? But no one can be that naive as to think that once the plan is "pushed" through it will EVER be repealed. No way. Once it's implemented it is in for good. Same will go for the illegal immigrant problem.

20 posted on 02/28/2010 10:01:29 AM PST by softwarecreator (Liberalism is a mental disease and the global alarmists prove it.)
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