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1 posted on 02/23/2010 9:18:24 AM PST by AtlasStalled
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To: AtlasStalled

Sometimes irony just writes itself


2 posted on 02/23/2010 9:19:42 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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To: AtlasStalled

so let’s see now....

you’re admitting the best care is in the US and you say it’s your right to get the best care.

so... why can’t you undo your socialized med and go to free market like i hope [and you hope too] we stay more or less - hopefully more.


3 posted on 02/23/2010 9:21:36 AM PST by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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To: AtlasStalled

Where will the wealthy Canadians go if or when Obama and his band of commies make our healthcare system the equal of the Canadian system?

Where are the smug Canadians telling us how superior their healthcare system is compared to ours?


4 posted on 02/23/2010 9:23:06 AM PST by brownsfan (The average American: Uninformed, and unconcerned.)
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To: AtlasStalled

this makes me absolutely livid. how dare he? how dare he say it was ‘his choice’ when his system (and ours) takes away the choice of the average citizen. in the US, a medicare patient with the same issue would be committing an illegal act if they sought healthcare outside the system once medicare says no. if medicare says ‘die’, you ‘die’. in this country the congress was VERY CLEVER (under a Republican President and Democratic Congress)—they made it illegal for both the physician and the patient to go around the government program.

JUST HOW STUPID IS AMERICA TO LET THIS HAPPEN? We expect socialism from Dems but Republicans you have shirked your duty for years to let us get in this position.


5 posted on 02/23/2010 9:25:36 AM PST by applpie (u)
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To: AtlasStalled

All Canadian pigs are equal, but some hypocritical leftist pigs are more equal than others... What a shameless Marxist!


7 posted on 02/23/2010 9:26:00 AM PST by ezfindit (ConservativeDatingSite.com - The Right Place for Conservative Singles)
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To: AtlasStalled

There is video of this snake Williams defending socialized medicine against all criticism.

He is a vomitous lying disgusting hypocrite when it comes down to it.

Hey Lowlife Danny! How about allowing the slaves in your country the same freedoms you have to access private care?


8 posted on 02/23/2010 9:26:44 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. - H. L. Menken.)
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To: AtlasStalled

Well, I can certainly understand Williams seeking the best available health care...but then why didn’t he go to Cuba?? /s


10 posted on 02/23/2010 9:30:54 AM PST by Nevermore (...just a typical cracker, clinging to my Constitutional rights...)
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To: AtlasStalled

“Your choice”? Not under ZeroCare!


11 posted on 02/23/2010 9:31:41 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: AtlasStalled
Socialism: A Master Class and a Lower Class... nothing in between!
12 posted on 02/23/2010 9:32:02 AM PST by avacado
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To: AtlasStalled
I have no idea who this author is, so one can read the information and glean whatever data is worthwhile. Other Freepers quote various "Examiner" articles here, so I've seen this publication show up numerous times, but I think that all sorts of views can be printed in this publication, so take it as you will...



Why change? The US has the 37th best health care system in the world

July 2, 2009 - 12:17 PM
Extreme Weight Loss Examiner
by Mark Rubi

Yes, it is true that the US has the 37th best health care system in the world, according to data from the World Health Organization (WHO). Fortunately for the ego of the United States, the WHO stopped doing the ranking in 2000 due to the difficulty of compiling the data.

The top ten are France, Italy, San Marino, Andorra, Malta, SIngapore, Spain, Oman, Austria, and Japan.

11-20 are Norway, Portugal, Monaco, Greece, Iceland, Luxembourg, Netherlands, United Kingdom, Ireland, and Switzerland.

21-30 are Belgium, Columbia, Sweden, Cyprus, Germany, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Israel, Morocco, and Canada.

31-40 are Finland, Australia, Chile, Denmark, Dominica, Costa Rica, United States of America, Slovenia, Cuba and Brunei.

41-50 are New Zealand, Bahrain, Croatia, Qatar, Kuwait, Barbados, Thailand, Czech Repubic, Malaysia, and Poland

Although our health care system is the ranked behind nearly every other industrialized country, the US can proudly boast that we pay more, a LOT more, than anyone else for our care. Not only does the United States spend more than $1 trillion more per year than anyone else on the planet, we also pay more, a lot more, per capita for our health care.

The World Health Organization says, “The U. S. health system spends a higher portion of its gross domestic product than any other country but ranks 37 out of 191 countries according to its performance.” This puts to rest the tired notion that the American “free market” pushes for the most efficient and least expensive system. In fact, we are the least efficient healthcare in the industrialized world.

The graphs from the Kaiser Family Foundation represents expenditures from the latest worldwide data, from 2003, when we were spending a mere $5,711 dollars a year per person for our health care. That number is now nearly $8,000 a year. Our health care costs, as a percentage of our Gross Domestic Product, have gone from 7% in 1970 to 15.2% in 2003. President Obama, in numerous speeches, points out that at current growth rates the cost of our health care will be 20% of our GDP by 2015.


Only one other country, Switzerland, pays as much as 11% of their GDP for their health care. Two out of three pay less than 10%. Most of the advanced nations in the world see health care as a right, and to quote the well known credit card commercial, “priceless.” In the United States, however, health care is NOT a right, and it does have a price, and a very high price indeed.


For all the money we spend, it would be nice if the health of Americans reflected that expenditure. But are we the healthiest country in the world? No, but we are the fattest. More than 30% of the adult population in the US is now considered medically obese. That 30% more than doubles the rate of most European countries, and triples the rates in France and Denmark.

The health care industry is going to spend billions of dollars to defeat health care reform. Thousands of “Health Scare” stories will be published in our newspapers and magazines. Millionaire lobbyists in high priced suits will be paying lots of visits to your elected officials. Advertisements will be all over the television, radio, and the internet. All of the effort will be made to convince the American public and their elected representatives that reforming health care would be too costly. And it would be too costly… to the health care industry.

The reason the folks in the health care industry are going to spend billions to defeat health care reform is because it works. Time and time again, the best interests of 300 million Americans have been pushed aside for the welfare of the very few. One of the leaders of the fight against reform is Rick Scott. He founded a group called "Conservatives for Patient's Rights," whose motto is "Tell Congress to listen, too."

It's interesting that Scott is promoting patient's rights since he was forced out as head of the Columbia/HCA health care company after the company was found guilty of fraudulent billing of state and federal health plans. Columbia/HCA was fined a record $1.7 billion for their infraction.

That’s because the health care industry believes that they have a “right” to your money. And they believe that they have the “right” to deny you health care if it gets too expensive. The insurance companies don’t want to compete with the government but are adamant that they be “free” to deny coverage to whomever they choose. Medical care, especially in our overpriced system, can be a serious hindrance to profits. That's why they like to dump high cost patients onto the government and US citizens who pay with their taxes.

Americans have long held the attitude that, as Americans, we have “rights.” These “rights” set us apart from much of the world. However, much of the world has caught up and even passed us by recognizing that health care is a basic human right, and not a commodity. If that doesn’t make you think, try this: Failure to fix the health care system will bankrupt this country.

For more info: Find out the facts about US health care costs. Don't let the commercials and articles extoling the wonders of our care fool you. The health care industry has been ripping off the country for a long time. Tell your elected officials that we want to get what we pay for. Tell your congressmen and senators that you want the same health care rights as the rest of the industrialized world.

© Mark Rubi, July 2, 2009

19 posted on 02/23/2010 10:12:35 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: AtlasStalled

Politicians should be forced to live within the nightmares they create, along with the rest of us. To Hell with the elites.


20 posted on 02/23/2010 10:38:30 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: fanfan

Ping.


24 posted on 02/23/2010 10:46:03 AM PST by Springman (Rest In Peace YaYa123)
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To: AtlasStalled

Newfoundland is Canada’s poorest province. Its citizens gets taxed to the hilt to pay for Canada’s socialist health care. This bozo makes enough money to opt for treatment in Florida while most of the people he lords over cannot afford to. Because they are overtaxed

He could have gotten the treatment in Canada but via a more invasive procedure. To get the exact procedure he wanted he ran like a rat to Miami


30 posted on 02/23/2010 11:09:31 AM PST by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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To: AtlasStalled
WORTH REPEATING...
"This was my heart, my choice and my health," Williams said late Monday from his condominium in Sarasota, Fla.

"I did not sign away my right to get the best possible health care for myself when I entered politics."...........

"I wanted to get in, get out fast, get back to work in a short period of time," the premier said.
Hmmmmm...yet with the proposed US Obamacare we will have to wait...

Williams said he didn't announce his departure south of the border because he didn't want to create "a media gong show," but added that criticism would've followed him had he chose to have surgery in Canada.

"I would've been criticized if I had stayed in Canada and had been perceived as jumping a line or a wait list. ... I accept that. That's public life," he said.
Hmmmmmyet with US Obamacarer..the 'death panels" will effectively make you wait...

"(But) this is not a unique phenomenon to me. This is something that happens with lots of families throughout this country, so I make no apologies for that."
Hmmmmm...yet we are told that Canada, Cuba, europe etc hall possess such wonderful health care for all...BUT he states so many of his Canadian countrymen are making the same decision to opt for the present US heathcare...


37 posted on 02/23/2010 1:59:13 PM PST by Stand Watch Listen ("Listen up people, let me be perfectly clear..I inherited the unprecedented, the unexpected.")
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"I did not sign away my right to get the best possible health care for myself when I entered politics."
Thanks AtlasStalled.
45 posted on 02/23/2010 3:00:38 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: AtlasStalled

Well isn’t that special! Meanwhile, the other Canadians just have to wait in line..Hay buddy..when your wonderful style of medicine hits our nation guess what???? You ain’t getting anything special anymore. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.


58 posted on 02/23/2010 3:26:49 PM PST by celtic gal (No RINOS..maybe we need a Constitution Party)
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To: AtlasStalled

At least he HAS a choice now, in 10 years, not so much...unless of course the elites will be able to buy whatever health care they wish. According to 0-man that ain’t supposed to happen.


69 posted on 02/23/2010 5:41:22 PM PST by madison10
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To: AtlasStalled

BM


87 posted on 02/25/2010 9:48:15 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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