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To: Williams

Look I’m not castigating Pope Pius XII, but to say what more could he have done, is a stretch.
He was the leader of the largest Christian organization in the world. The statement that he helped to save many Jews makes the case that he was well aware of the situation that had engulfed the Nazi ruled world and the atrocities associated with it.
What could he have done? Look back to the early church leaders who were also surrounded by an antagonistic empire. Martyr yourself and announce to the world what you know is going on and shine a light upon a situation the world was choosing to ignore.


20 posted on 02/23/2010 11:24:41 AM PST by WILLIALAL
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To: WILLIALAL

Oh he should have martyred himself. OK


25 posted on 02/23/2010 3:47:57 PM PST by Williams (It's the policies, stupid)
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To: WILLIALAL

“Martyr yourself”

You say to another man, “martyr yourself?”

Words fail.


42 posted on 02/23/2010 10:56:01 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: WILLIALAL
>>>>>>>What could he have done? Look back to the early church leaders who were also surrounded by an antagonistic empire.<<<<<<<<<

Agree. Pius XII could not do much in The Third Reich nor in German-occupied countries where RC priests were sent to Nazi concentration camps.

But, Independent State of Croatia was not occupied by Nazis, it was Nazi Ally. And there, out of 1700 RC priests, some 1400 participated in slaughter of innocents. The Personal envoy of Pius XII was there during the war and it is highly unlikely that Pius XII did not know what was going on there.

Rome was liberated June 5, 1944. Pius XII supported the Nazis even after demise of the Third Reich May 9, 1945. Ratlines were run from the Vatican, surrounded by Allied forces. Not exactly definition of "antagonistic empire".

Pius XII support to Nazis after The Third Reich fell is the issue we are dealing here with.

72 posted on 02/24/2010 12:54:06 PM PST by DTA
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