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Class Warfare's Next Target: 401(k) Savings
Investors.com ^ | February 17, 2010 | NEWT GINGRICH AND PETER FERRARA

Posted on 02/17/2010 5:40:59 PM PST by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

“good” ideas + Democrats = mandates.


61 posted on 02/17/2010 6:23:04 PM PST by edwinland
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62 posted on 02/17/2010 6:24:20 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Wisconsinlady

That is why I think hard assets look good. But the truth is people don’t know what to do.

The only thing that is certain anymore is that they all have designs on your lifetime of hard work.


63 posted on 02/17/2010 6:24:54 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: Kaslin

I heard that the Democrats were planning on doing that around the time obama took power. It is not a new idea, they were preoccupied with obama care.


64 posted on 02/17/2010 6:25:58 PM PST by sport
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To: Kaslin

Where can we comment on this proposed program by Treasury and Labor?

I can not find anything on the Treasury Dept. site. Or is this to be only during a public meeting at the Treasury Dept. itself?

I would like to know how “real” this proposal is before making any comments on this proposal.

I could see this proposal making the Health Care fiasco look like a small side show.


65 posted on 02/17/2010 6:26:07 PM PST by CapnJack
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To: Kaslin

If there isn’t a last straw before they get to this, this will certainly be it.


66 posted on 02/17/2010 6:27:22 PM PST by spodefly (I have posted nothing but BTTT over 1000 times!!!)
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To: Jack Black
I don't think they can get away with it.

Not a very good argument. Think of all the things they have already done, we thought would be impossible.
67 posted on 02/17/2010 6:29:08 PM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: CapnJack

Here’s a PDF file with the pertinent info:

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/2010-02028_PI.pdf

And here’s a helpful tip:

For readers who feel compelled to respond to this increasignly socialistic and ludicrous development, we suggest you voice your anger at the following address:

* e-ORI@dol.gov. Include RIN 1210-AB33 in the subject line of the message


68 posted on 02/17/2010 6:30:48 PM PST by jsh3180
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To: Jack Black

“Anger is one letter short of danger.”
Anonymous

They are looking for a trigger....and to leave one broke and starving...........and armed.

Seditious SOB’s better be careful what they hope for.


69 posted on 02/17/2010 6:38:59 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: ReyTurner

Newt is probably wishing he was still in congress so he can have a hand in “helping” the people spend their money in ways that he see’s fit.


70 posted on 02/17/2010 6:43:28 PM PST by kickonly88 (I love fossil fuel!)
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To: jsh3180
Thanks for the info.

You see, when ever I inform some of my marxist coworkers down in Mass, they instinctively say “it will never happen” and then comment that “this is some rightwing propaganda story”.

I'm sure everyone here at FR knows that conservatives need facts and common sense to support their points, marxist/liberals just think they only need feelings to justify their “positions”.

71 posted on 02/17/2010 6:43:29 PM PST by CapnJack
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To: Squantos

It is going to be over soon if they even think this war on the middle class continues. This is a middle class issue. the wealthy do not have these instruments. a country full of poor people is easier to govern.


72 posted on 02/17/2010 6:44:24 PM PST by Chickensoup (We have the government we deserve. Is our government our traitor?)
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To: Kaslin
I don't expect to ever retire. If there is anything left of my social security by the time I can retire I'll take it and go work overseas as a missionary. It's an unlivable income in the US, but overseas it'll be enough to enable me to spread the gospel...I wonder if the progressives know their left of my retirement is going to create a missionary...I hope they're pleased.
73 posted on 02/17/2010 6:45:00 PM PST by highlander_UW (Obama has lost or not saved over 4 million jobs!)
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To: Kaslin
There was a thread about a month ago about Argentina. This is from Travis McGee:

"They came looking for more handouts.

In 2002, a surprise devaluation and immediate conversion of dollar accounts to peso accounts virtually wiped out 75% of the savings of millions of Argentines.

Then last year, the govt literally confiscated the equivalent of millions of people's 401K private retirement accounts, and gave them to the govt.

So it's not just a case of malcontents wanting "handouts." They want their money, which was literally stolen by the Kirchner govt. "

Sound familiar?

74 posted on 02/17/2010 6:49:06 PM PST by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: kickonly88

Newt is positioning to run for President of the United States in the Republican party and I think he will be very successful because the field is such a void.


75 posted on 02/17/2010 6:52:19 PM PST by ReyTurner
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To: ReyTurner

Yeah ,right. Keep telling yourself that. Newt is a turd.He might become the R nominee if you can pick him up from the clean end.


76 posted on 02/17/2010 6:59:06 PM PST by kickonly88 (I love fossil fuel!)
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To: ReyTurner
Really?


77 posted on 02/17/2010 7:04:22 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Ellendra

So you did. It’s definitely time to throw the bums out - but will liberal Madistan and “Progressive” Wisconsin agree?


78 posted on 02/17/2010 7:06:41 PM PST by knittnmom ("...only dead fish 'go with the flow'". - Sarah Palin 7/09)
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To: knittnmom

No, but I think little York will stand its ground :p


79 posted on 02/17/2010 7:09:44 PM PST by Ellendra (Can't starve us out, and you can't make us run. . . -Hank Jr.)
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To: Kaslin
This "conversion" may start out as an optional choice,

The government will never outright take your 401(k) funds. They will use the gradual approach instead.

First, they will deny tax deferral for any "new" contributions unless they are used to purchase special government back securities. You will have a choice, do not contribute or buy the government program. Because many employers match contributions - a lot of people will buy into the government program.

Next, they will put a time line the tax deference on funds already in the accounts. So, each year 10% of what you have in your fund will become taxable income unless you convert. Again, most people will try to avoid the tax and convert to the government security.

In ten years nearly all of the 401(k) money will be in the governments hands

80 posted on 02/17/2010 7:11:36 PM PST by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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