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To: neverdem; Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Colleagues say that the reason Professor Phil Jones has refused Freedom of Information requests is that he may have actually lost the relevant papers."
Ahhheemmmm. BS. By his own admissions within the body of his emails to his cronies he admitted they must continue to figure out ways to hide the decline in global temperatures, and must be careful of the FOA issue.
Now let the American L/MSM finally stop hiding and start to do some honest reporting for a change.
It would be nice to see some accurate checks of what this paper claims Jones has admitted.
20 posted on 02/13/2010 7:04:32 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: Marine_Uncle; neverdem; SunkenCiv; Fred Nerks; steelyourfaith; NormsRevenge; Oynx; BOBTHENAILER

Wow...


46 posted on 02/13/2010 8:06:13 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Marine_Uncle; Ernest_at_the_Beach
It would be nice to see some accurate checks of what this paper claims Jones has admitted.

Don’t see any mention of this yet in the BBC. Guess they are wondering where their pension plans are going to go.

'Climategate' expert Jones says data not well organised

That's the BBC account.

52 posted on 02/13/2010 8:21:00 PM PST by neverdem
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To: Marine_Uncle; neverdem; Ernest_at_the_Beach
By his own admissions within the body of his emails to his cronies he admitted they must continue to figure out ways to hide the decline in global temperatures,

It's important that critics get things right, so as not to give the alarmists an easy out.

He was not writing in those emails about "hiding the decline" in actual measured temperatures. He was referring to a period (in the 1990's, IIRC) when measured temperatures were increasing.

The "decline" which had to be "hidden" was in the "proxy data" (from cores of long lived pine trees, again IIRC) which Jones and other alarmists favored as means of determining temperatures before measurements were available.

The "proxy" data indicated that temperatures were dropping at a time when they were actually rising. IOW, during the period when the "proxy" data could actually be compared with directly measured data, the proxy data DIDN'T FIT the measured data. Therefore the decline in the PROXY DATA had to be hidden least it become clear that the proxy data they were using (showing lower temperatures before the industrial revolution, and which also conveniently smoothed out, and all but eliminated, both the Medieval Warm Period and the Little Ice Age) were untrustworthy.

86 posted on 02/14/2010 6:00:58 AM PST by Stultis (Democrats. Still devoted to the three S's: Slavery, Segregation and Socialism.)
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