How German Homeschoolers Won Asylum in the U.S.

time.com ^ | Feb. 01, 2010 | Tristana Moore / Berlin

[eleni121]

We may have to count on people who have lost their freedoms to help restore ours

---

Yes .... but no Muslims need apply. By definition muslims are the antithesis of freedom.

[wolf78]

You have to remember that Germany is the country that has a law which requires you to pick the name for your child from an approved list.

Which is also untrue. It is true that there is a list of pre-approved names. But other names are accepted as well. The operative word here is name, i.e. if you want to give your child a traditional Mongolian name in honor of its Mongolian great-grandfather, that is possible, too.

What you cannot do is name your child "kitchen sink". Also if parents really hate their child and try to name it "Judas Adolf", that request will be denied.

[wolf78]

Now possibly we can help the few remaining Christians in Germany who refuse to bow down to the snakes of secularism.

Secularism - complete bullsh*t. As I wrote in the other thread on the subject:

The irony here is that Germany doesn't have a strict separation between church and state and the Bible is actually taught in public schools. It's called Religionsunterricht, often taught by the local pastor and usually comes in two flavors: protestant and catholic (i.e. mainstream lutheranism or catholicism). If you're a strict atheist, muslim, jew etc., there's often also an ethics class instead of religious education, but often children of atheists take religious education because they don't want to be separated from the rest of their class. In some German states there are even officially catholic and lutheran state schools.

Religious instruction shall form part of the regular curriculum in state schools [...]. Without prejudice to the state’s right of supervision, religious instruction shall be given in accordance with the tenets of the religious community concerned. [...] (Basic Law for the Federal Republic of Germany, article 7.3)

And all that is in addition to a large number of constitutionally guaranteed religious private schools.

The right to establish private schools shall be guaranteed. [...] (Basic Law 7.4)

A private elementary school shall be approved only if the educational authority finds that it serves a special pedagogical interest or if, on the application of parents or guardians, it is to be established as a denominational or interdenominational school [...] (Basic Law 7.5)

German law doesn't regard children as property of the state or that they attend state schools. The only thing it requires is that children be taught in a school setting (i.e. rent a few rooms) by - at least - semi-professionals (i.e. get certified). Many obscure religious sects were able to start their own schools so it isn't THAT hard to comply with these requirements. The Romeikes are an exception - partly because they are paid for by US donors. But other than that are are practically no religious conservatives that have any problem with the German system. US conservatives will disagree with that notion (and that is allright, after all countries are different, Germans would find the American right to abortion and strict separation of church and state also strange), but most of the smears against Germany simply disregard the FACTS.

[eleni121]

Yeah - the Bible along with the koran and the kamasutra and the vedas

Herr Wolf: Chrstians in Germany should have the right to attend whatever school they want and that includes school at home-- in the loving Christian arms of their parents not in the universal secular all pagan all religious arms of the STATE

Don't be such an authoritarian. Weber and Nietzsche et al are wrong.

Pubic teacher in Germany teaches buddhism

[wolf78]

Chrstians in Germany should have the right to attend whatever school they want [...]

They do. Plenty of affordable religious private schools out there, if a christian public school is too mainstream for your taste.

[...] and that includes school at home.

I have no problems with homeschooling, you should really learn to read. I'm just pointing out, that a.) there are different systems in other countries and b.) you have to look at the whole picture before spouting clueless nonsense.

But maybe you will explain to me next how Germany should offer McAbortions like the US or practise Greek-style communism.

[eleni121]

Greece has never been a communist state -— thousands of Greeks fought to kill it off-—Germany on the other hand has supported the takeover of governments by Bolsheviks and have made the choice to live with a brutal Communist system for how long?-— 50- Plus years...and it appears that Germans still hold a warm affection for it—typical statists that they are.

The fact is that home schooling is illegal in Germany - and the secularist fever that afflicts Europe is spreading here too.. but not yet.

As for aboertion in Germany: first-trimester abortions on demand - quite legal. Up to 22nd week - that is 5.5 months - for superfluous reasons like mental health of the mother. So get off your high horse on that.