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IVF babies ‘risk major diseases’
The Sunday Times (UK) ^
| January 10, 2010
| Jonathan Leake
Posted on 01/12/2010 6:29:05 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o
Scientists have discovered that the DNA of babies conceived through IVF differs from that of other children, putting them at greater risk of diseases such as diabetes and obesity later in life.
The new research could explain why IVF babies tend to be at higher risk of low birth weight, defects and rare metabolic disorders.
The changes are not in the genes themselves but in the mechanism that switches them on and off, the study of which is known as epigenetics.
These epigenetic differences have the potential to affect embyronic development and foetal growth, as well as influencing long-term patterns of gene expression associated with increased risk of many human diseases, said Professor Carmen Sapienza...
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: bioethics; infertility; invitro; ivf; technology
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There are better, healthier approaches to infertility than IVF and other technologies which substitute lab processes for sexual union and conception. One is called
NaProTechnology.
To: Perdogg; fight_truth_decay; GonzoII; Blogger; Clemenza; trumandogz; Ballygrl; RobbyS; DJ MacWoW; ...
Thought you might be interested.
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posted on
01/12/2010 6:34:29 PM PST
by
Mrs. Don-o
("God bless the child who's got his own." Arthur Herzog Jr./Billie Holiday)
To: Mrs. Don-o
One possibility is that couples who are infertile may have naturally higher levels of epigenetic changes than the rest of the population, perhaps explaining the cause of their infertility.Small study, 23 babies. Did they control for maternal age and health? What you'd really like to do is look at parents matched for age, health, and SES, and who ALL had difficulty conceiving - and compare IVF babies to those conceived after three years of trying, say.
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posted on
01/12/2010 6:43:03 PM PST
by
heartwood
To: Mrs. Don-o
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posted on
01/12/2010 6:45:49 PM PST
by
altura
To: Mrs. Don-o
Did the study say anything about the health of the Six or Seven babies that are washed down the drain in almost every IVF procedure?
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posted on
01/12/2010 6:46:08 PM PST
by
trumandogz
(The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
To: Mrs. Don-o
And thus the seeds of the Butlerian Jihad were sown.
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posted on
01/12/2010 6:56:33 PM PST
by
NonValueAdded
("'Diversity' is one of those words designed to absolve you of the need to think." Mark Steyn)
To: Mrs. Don-o
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posted on
01/12/2010 7:00:10 PM PST
by
DJ MacWoW
(Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
To: Mrs. Don-o
I miscarried for 13 years and then had 3 babies...eat sweet potatoes and take prenatal vitamins before you conceive!
To: NonValueAdded
Wasn’t that traced to killing Serena Butler’s baby for population control, not genetic management?
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posted on
01/12/2010 7:18:06 PM PST
by
tbw2
(Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
To: trumandogz
One wonders about the health of the frozen babies, as well.
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posted on
01/12/2010 7:55:26 PM PST
by
Marie2
(The second mouse gets the cheese.)
To: Mrs. Don-o
Yes, thank you for posting.
To: tbw2
Yes, but for whatever reason a proscription against artificial insemination was one of the results (Dune Messiah).
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posted on
01/12/2010 9:28:26 PM PST
by
NonValueAdded
("'Diversity' is one of those words designed to absolve you of the need to think." Mark Steyn)
To: Mrs. Don-o
Again, the science of DNA (life?) continues to admit, in additional ways, that “the gene” alone is not the master of its own fate.
Also, I have often asked if, in as much as one reason couples do things like IVF is that they are having problem reproducing naturally; and therefore, given how many years IVF has been in use now, has there been any study to determine if some percentage of the people who were conceived by IVF have inherited the conditions that limited their parents reproductive chances. And the corollary to that is - if my first question proves correct, then is the whole artificial reproductive industry a self-perpetuating, and expanding industry - helping to “create” a supply of ready future clients?
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posted on
01/12/2010 9:59:12 PM PST
by
Wuli
To: Wuli
I don't know how much this "study" can be taken as fact, because of the small size of the sample population.
Again, the science of DNA (life?) continues to admit, in additional ways, that the gene alone is not the master of its own fate.
The DNA of the infertile parents are somewhat off the norm in the first place. IVF merely enforces reproduction, usually over-riding the obstacles that occur in its achievement, without artificial aid.
That said, it is accepted knowledge that genes can be affected by behaviour:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/genome/debate.html
To: heartwood
Good point. I’d like to see a lot more information.
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posted on
01/13/2010 6:31:47 AM PST
by
Mrs. Don-o
("God bless the child who's got his own." Arthur Herzog Jr./Billie Holiday)
To: trumandogz
It's so ironic. Infertile would-be parents (and my heart goes out to them) want babies and treasure life; and yet the whole procedure is based on the most radical dehmanization. IVF treats the conceived child as, at best, a "product" to be made --- maybe even made-to-order --- or, a "by-product" to be kept on ice, or tossed.
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posted on
01/13/2010 6:40:28 AM PST
by
Mrs. Don-o
("God bless the child who's got his own." Arthur Herzog Jr./Billie Holiday)
To: Domestic Church
Congrats to you and your husband for your three babies! Mr. Don-o and I hit the jackpot with B-vitamins, Benedryl, and boxer shorts!
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posted on
01/13/2010 6:42:14 AM PST
by
Mrs. Don-o
("God bless the child who's got his own." Arthur Herzog Jr./Billie Holiday)
To: NonValueAdded
Very wise. Were they perhaps Catholics? Proto-Catholics? Crypto-Catholics? NINO's (Noncatholics In Name Only)?
:o)
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posted on
01/13/2010 6:47:24 AM PST
by
Mrs. Don-o
("God bless the child who's got his own." Arthur Herzog Jr./Billie Holiday)
To: James C. Bennett
I don't know how much this "study" can be taken as fact, because of the small size of the sample population. The quality of the sample (is it unbiased?) is much more important than the size.
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posted on
01/13/2010 6:47:34 AM PST
by
Moonman62
(The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
To: Wuli
Good question. Another point to make is that IVF doesn't actually "cure" infertility: which is to say, people who were incapable of reproducing normally via sexual intercourse, remain incapable: the underlying cause is not addressed.
A true, morally unobjectionable therapy would identify and modify the underlying cause in order to restore sexual reproductive health and natural fertility--- not try to replace it with a laboratory process.
So strange that nowadays "sexual health" is used as a euphemism for a program of deliberately, temporarily or permanently, subverting normal sexual relationships and procreative processes.
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posted on
01/13/2010 6:54:16 AM PST
by
Mrs. Don-o
("God bless the child who's got his own." Arthur Herzog Jr./Billie Holiday)
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