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How to get an old car running on ethanol?
12 January 2010 | Vanity

Posted on 01/12/2010 10:24:05 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

My mechanic just told me the older cars (1980s) will not run properly on ethanol which has been mandated by the federal government. He said it will cause some problems with the fuel injection (my project car is a 1989 Nissan Sentra). Does anyone know of an additive to put in the gas to counteract the effects of ethanol or to remove the ethanol from the gas? Thanks for any help.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: energy; ethanol; fuelinjection; larryperry; magicmechanic; oldcars
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Need some help on what I need to do to get this car running. Or, perhaps it is suitable to drive off of a cliff in a movie....
1 posted on 01/12/2010 10:24:07 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Some people can retrofit to run on any oil including cheap oil resturants want to get rid of.


2 posted on 01/12/2010 10:25:49 AM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

You could always move to Texas or Oklahoma where you can buy real gas! ;-)


3 posted on 01/12/2010 10:27:58 AM PST by Pining_4_TX
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Old car, good idea `cause you`ll ruin the engine.


4 posted on 01/12/2010 10:28:02 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

this is mandated by the feds? since when? older cars are not grandfathered? what’s up?


5 posted on 01/12/2010 10:28:29 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Frantzie

Seems to me that the government is deliberating obsoleting old cars through this mandate. That’s just wrong.


6 posted on 01/12/2010 10:28:39 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Uh just lut it in the tank and start it then drive. I when I was in High School(1970s) used Gasohol (10% Alcohol-90% Gas) in my car all of the time w/ no probs.


7 posted on 01/12/2010 10:29:35 AM PST by US Navy Vet
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Old car, good idea `cause you`ll ruin the engine.

Ruin the engine with the ethanol, or with the other things the poster mentioned?

8 posted on 01/12/2010 10:29:47 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Not in Texas, we have been forced to buy that crap ethanol in our gas. Ir really sucks, about 10-15% less fuel economy (MPG for you california goobs)


9 posted on 01/12/2010 10:30:02 AM PST by 9422WMR
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Does anyone know of an additive to put in the gas to counteract the effects of ethanol

Add lead to the gas.

10 posted on 01/12/2010 10:30:17 AM PST by Ben Mugged (Unions are the storm troopers of socialism.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Proper combustion is only part of the problem. Ethanol damages - softens, partially dissolves - gaskets, hoses, and other parts that are not specifically impervious to it.


11 posted on 01/12/2010 10:30:42 AM PST by MainFrame65 (The US Senate: World's greatest PREVARICATIVE body!.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Proper combustion is only part of the problem. Ethanol damages - softens, partially dissolves - gaskets, hoses, and other parts that are not specifically impervious to it.


12 posted on 01/12/2010 10:31:00 AM PST by MainFrame65 (The US Senate: World's greatest PREVARICATIVE body!.)
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To: Frantzie
Some people can retrofit to run on any oil including cheap oil resturants want to get rid of.

Gasoline engines will not burn restaurant cooking oil, or any oil, for that matter. Only diesel engines can burn waste oil. Some burn it straight up if it's hot out (I know someone who does this with an old Mercedes 300D). Others add a heater to the fuel tank to lower the viscosity of the cooking oil, and have a secondary tank for diesel fuel that the car starts on and burns until the cooking oil tank is hot. If you want to drive a car on cooking oil, get an old used diesel.

13 posted on 01/12/2010 10:32:32 AM PST by Orbiting_Rosie's_Head (argh)
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To: 9422WMR

You must live in or near one of the big cities. You have to drive pretty far out to escape metro areas covered by the silly air pollution rules - that don’t actually help solve air pollution. In places like College Station, I don’t think there are any stations that sell the crappy gas with ethanol in it. Whoop!


14 posted on 01/12/2010 10:34:02 AM PST by Pining_4_TX
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Enter your question here and get your answer:

http://www.magicmechanic.net/


15 posted on 01/12/2010 10:34:02 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("Some strands of conservatism (Ayn Rand) are intellectually bizarre and frankly destructive" Gagdad)
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To: MainFrame65

But...but...but The govmnt says it’s good for you!

Think it’s bad on cars, you should see the damage to small engines. We sell/service Stihl and Toro equip. That crap is EATING the innards of the machines.

Don’t even get me started on what it’s doing to outboards.


16 posted on 01/12/2010 10:35:07 AM PST by gardengirl
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Trying to be more serious this time - where do people buy gas for their lawn mowers or boats? That equipment requires real gas.

I don’t know what state you live in, but in many states there are some stations still selling real gas. You just have to find them. People discuss this issue on Gas Buddy sometimes, even though that site is meant to help folks find the best gas prices.


17 posted on 01/12/2010 10:37:23 AM PST by Pining_4_TX
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To: Pining_4_TX

Ethanol content is supposed to be posted on the pump...


18 posted on 01/12/2010 10:43:49 AM PST by LRS (Just contracts; just laws; just a constitution...)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
My brother in law works for Dow Corning and they have been experimenting with Canola oil or Rape seed oil, they are both the same thing, it works. The problems they have is the oil in the winter gets real thick, but, with ethanol added it might not. You might want to check it out.

I'm getting this second hand from my hubby and he's not here right now, but, I could have sworn they said it work without any type of conversion as long as the oil was clean.

Just to let you know, I use to work on cars with my dad and also at times repaired my own cars. I haven't done this in years because I don't have to, but, I'm not a complete dits when it comes to cars :)

19 posted on 01/12/2010 10:44:28 AM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Yes, DFW area. They have extended the area where 10% ethanol is sold/mandated. It is horible on older cars. the fuel system is destroyed. Even worse on boats. The fiberglass tanks are rotting out with the ethanol. The old boat engines that were always reliable are just turning to junk aluminum now. EPA should be eliminated. They are crooks, like the rest of the federal government.


20 posted on 01/12/2010 10:44:45 AM PST by 9422WMR
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