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Iran Shielding Nuclear Efforts in Tunnel Mazes
nytimes.com ^ | Jan. 5, 2010 | WILLIAM J. BROAD

Posted on 01/05/2010 6:39:54 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

Last September, when Iran’s uranium enrichment plant buried inside a mountain near the holy city of Qum was revealed, the episode cast light on a wider pattern: Over the past decade, Iran has quietly hidden an increasingly large part of its atomic complex in networks of tunnels and bunkers across the country.

In doing so, American government and private experts say, Iran has achieved a double purpose. Not only has it shielded its infrastructure from military attack in warrens of dense rock, but it has further obscured the scale and nature of its notoriously opaque nuclear effort. The discovery of the Qum plant only heightened fears about other undeclared sites.

Now, with the passing of President Obama’s year-end deadline for diplomatic progress, that cloak of invisibility has emerged as something of a stealth weapon, complicating the West’s military and geopolitical calculus.

The Obama administration says it is hoping to take advantage of domestic political unrest and disarray in Iran’s nuclear program to press for a regimen of strong and immediate new sanctions. But a crucial factor behind that push for nonmilitary solutions, some analysts say, is Iran’s tunneling — what Tehran calls its strategy of “passive defense.”

Indeed, Secretary of Defense Robert M. Gates has repeatedly discounted the possibility of a military strike, saying that it would only slow Iran’s nuclear ambitions by one to three years while driving the program further underground.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 200909; iran; iraniannukes; israel; madmullahs; nukes; qanat; qom; qum; tunnels

1 posted on 01/05/2010 6:39:54 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY
If we hit the government, not the rocks, it doesn't matter a damn how they try to hide it.

Nobody here is serious. It is painfully obvious that actual solutions are not wanted, only lame excuses to sit on our collective backside.

2 posted on 01/05/2010 6:50:35 PM PST by JasonC
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Is there such a thing as a nuclear JDAM?


3 posted on 01/05/2010 7:07:38 PM PST by doc1019 (To call Obama a bumbling idiot would be an insult to bumbling idiots worldwide.)
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To: doc1019

right , nuke um 1st

good idea (seriously)


4 posted on 01/05/2010 7:31:05 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse
Israel may go that route. If you can identify the access points to the underground complex then you pound them. That seals them off. Then watch which complex(es) they try to open up first and most frantically, go back and pound them again - bounce the rubble. (one of my favorite phrases)

You don't need nuclear weapons for this, but they would do a good job of really making the complexes inaccessible - when the ground around them is going to be "hot" for years.

5 posted on 01/05/2010 7:51:12 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

SOON Qum go BOOM


6 posted on 01/05/2010 7:52:29 PM PST by Freedom_Fighter_2001
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Indeed, Secretary of Defense Robert M. Gates has repeatedly discounted the possibility of a military strike, saying that it would only slow Iran’s nuclear ambitions by one to three years while driving the program further underground.

Even a three year delay would be better than NO DELAY
which is what we get with the feckless foreign policy
of the imposter.

Is it not better to make Iran work against the clock,
to struggle against the full might of the free nations
every step of the way than to just throw up our hands
and allow them to proceed unhindered towards the destruction
of Israel and of our own form of government?

There can be no doubt that the aim of the Iranian mullacracy
is world domination under the banner of Islam.
Why should we NOT call that to the worlds attention?
Why should we NOT do everything we can to fight it?
Why should we WAIT until those forces
of Islamic domination are STRONG?

We must not wait, we cannot afford to wait, for with
every day that passes, the forces of Islam forge
the weapons of our own enslavement, and the death
of thousands of our citizens.

Shall we sit, and see pieces of our posterity carved away
bit by bit, an airliner here, a skyscraper there, motorists
traveling our highways, children in our schools.
When is enough ENOUGH!
Must it take the deaths of thousands? Tens of thousands?
Hundreds of thousands? Before we rouse our rightous
anger? War HAS been declared, yet not by us but upon us
and still we are not roused but that time will come.


7 posted on 01/05/2010 7:53:34 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: jhpigott; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; FARS; MestaMachine; SunkenCiv; Nachum; sonofstrangelove; MrB; ...
*ping* the NEW YORK TIMES
8 posted on 01/06/2010 6:41:30 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

“Last September, when Iran’s uranium enrichment plant buried inside a mountain near the holy city of Qum was revealed,”
~~~
Prolly in too deep to reach now...:0/


9 posted on 01/06/2010 4:30:39 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; jhpigott
Well... maybe not.

You see, there evidentally is a massive network of underground tunnels, and apparently if part of a tunnel was nuked, every other nearby tunnel and/or any tunnel connected to the nuked tunnel would simultaneous be destroyed.

IF I understand the earlier postings about the qanat.

Say, did you hear that Israel is going to start handing out new gas masks to all its citizens?

10 posted on 01/06/2010 4:42:16 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie
http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu5m8HURLF58Afo1XNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEycWZiajdrBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkA0Y5NDVfOTc-/SIG=1224lfrln/EXP=1262841660/**http%3a//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheyenne_Mountain

Some pics here :

http://www.armscontrolwonk.com/952/iran-the-bomb-3-strike-options

IIRC Siemens and/or another German contractor/s built

these sites,,,(they don't build junk),,,

Cheyenne Mountain gives us a good idea of how these sites

are built,,,(first link),,,

The second link shows tunnels at Esfahan that go under a

mountain and a partial target list,,,

I have read that there are about 100 targets now scattered

around the country,,,

The warhead assembly area is Target # 1,,,

But where is it ?...:0/

11 posted on 01/06/2010 5:55:41 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Bibi knows. He knows where it is. He must.


12 posted on 01/07/2010 8:11:04 AM PST by hennie pennie
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