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U.S. addicts killed Mexican hero
Waterbury Republican-American ^ | January 2, 2010 | Editorial

Posted on 01/02/2010 5:35:36 PM PST by Graybeard58

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To: fieldmarshaldj

You state that prohibition should be the way to go, going so far as to say that it’s ‘absurd’ to even contemplate anything else.

So it should be *VERY* easy to state the reasons why.

Please do so.


101 posted on 01/03/2010 6:55:49 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: gogogodzilla

Indeed. But why waste my time ? Will you change your mind ? You dodged that point. You know them as well as I, but you’ll come up with the same “rationalizations” all the pro-drugs types have for why it’s just an issue of “personal choice” (like abortion), “liberty” (chortles) and how nobody will be harmed by it except the single individual, and all the crime will disappear and everything will be sunshine and lollipops. Right ?


102 posted on 01/03/2010 7:03:07 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: DemforBush

“Just wanted to mention that “The Pusher” was written by the late, great Hoyt Axton.”

My favorite Hoyt Axton song was Greenback Dollar. I first heard it performed by the original Kingston Trio with Dave Guard, Bob Shane and Nick Reynolds. I think Bob Shane did the lead vocal.


103 posted on 01/03/2010 7:16:10 PM PST by Poser (Enjoying Prime Rib for 58 Years!)
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To: Poser

Check that... John Stewart was the banjo player when the Kingston Trio recorded Greenback Dollar.


104 posted on 01/03/2010 7:25:42 PM PST by Poser (Enjoying Prime Rib for 58 Years!)
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To: Emmett McCarthy
Yep, as well as “Never Been To Spain” and “Joy To the World”. His mother Mae Axton wrote “Heartbreak Hotel”, too. I’ve heard that the movie “Honeysuckle Rose” was supposed to be his deal, but he quit after arguing with the director and Willie Nelson was brought in. Later the title was changed to “On The Road Again” after that song went so big. I think Hoyt also wrote the old Kingston Trio song “Greenback Dollar” and did some bit part on the old Bonanza series.

As long as were going through Axton's bio, it should be noted that his cousin is Oklahaoma's former Governor, then Senator, and current President of the University of Oklahoma, David Boren (the only democrat for whom I've ever voted).

105 posted on 01/03/2010 8:01:37 PM PST by acad1228 (Palin/Watts in 2012!!!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

We won’t actually know that for sure unless you post your reasons, now will we?

Furthermore, *OTHERS* who might read your posts might actually have their convictions changed or strengthened.


Considering the considerable effort you are making *NOT* to post your reasons is starting to lead me to believe that you have none, other than a simple knee-jerk attitude of ‘it’s bad, m’kay’.


106 posted on 01/04/2010 4:41:11 AM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: John-Irish

Of course they don’t, however most of those actions impair the judgment at the moment. It is what happens at that moment or afterward that I am talking about. How many people are in court,hospital,bankruptcy or morgue every year because of a voluntary action like drugs or alcohol irregardless if they are an addict or not.


107 posted on 01/04/2010 6:59:47 AM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: acad1228

Yeah, I recall having heard that. There are only a very few around the music thing with whom I will “talk politics”. As bad as any lefty can be if you get their panties in a wad by disagreeing, the tempermental “artist/writer” can be exponentially worse.


108 posted on 01/04/2010 8:58:40 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: gogogodzilla
"other than a simple knee-jerk attitude of ‘it’s bad, m’kay’."

Actually, you nailed it right there. It is that simple. I know to you cultural elites, it's something to mock and scorn. How square ! He opposes something that has killed and harmed millions of Americans alone and how dare he say, "It's bad !" Gee whiz ! What's next ? Saying abortion and slavery is bad, too ? What a buzzkill !

109 posted on 01/04/2010 10:54:40 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Walkingfeather

And how many aren’t because they don’t have a drinking or drug problem even though they have the occasional drink or drug? You’ll never change my viewpoint. And you’re talking to a recovering drunk here. Prohibition never solved anything and never will. So are we to drag this pointless prohibition in this century as well? To what end? What success did it accomplish in the last?


110 posted on 01/04/2010 3:02:52 PM PST by John-Irish ("Shame of him who thinks of it''.)
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To: John-Irish

I see your point, I think I would agree with drugs being legal in one’s home. But not “under the influence” on the street. Yet I see drawbacks.
but....see my tagline


111 posted on 01/04/2010 3:18:46 PM PST by Shimmer1 (illegitimi non carborundum)
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To: Graybeard58

I don’t care what any of the people on this thread say, but all the complaining about liberty and so on is simply about their addiction to drugs. They want to get their weed or whatever at the nearest 7-11 and that is IT. They are thinking with their primitive drug addled minds period. It’s like listening to Tiger Woods when it comes to women.

Daring to blame users for ANYTHING will get an extreme online reaction from the users because when you attack drugs or using them, you are attacking them. They are their baby and dammit you aren’t going to bash it!


112 posted on 01/04/2010 3:20:14 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I get the feeling a lot of the pro-drug people on here have arrest records for drugs, if not all of them. If you listen to them, you’d think they’ve all been raided by the DEA every other night. And probably some have been.


113 posted on 01/04/2010 3:23:02 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: Tolsti2

Heh. I’m sure some have. The rest are “intellectuals” who seem to have all the answers on how to “manage” this situation under the guise of “freedom and liberty”, and like all theorists, it always works out for them in their heads or on paper, but almost never when put into practice. At least one of them was honest the other day when they stated that they didn’t CARE if the rest of America became addicts following legalization. Tells you a lot.


114 posted on 01/04/2010 3:37:19 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Not only do they not care, but some actually believe drug use rates will drop if it’s legal.

I proved my point once when someone said they have done cigarettes and beer, but nothing illegal. I didn’t really believe them, but if true that proves that when it’s legal and OTC people will tend to impulse try it.

I’ve drank and smoked cigs, but haven’t tried anything illegal because it’s illegal. I know I’m not the only one like that either. If they were legal, sure I’d have tried them too.


115 posted on 01/04/2010 3:45:17 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: fieldmarshaldj

It doesn’t sound any different than what is said about alcohol and cigarettes, so... again, what is your reasons for saying that we need to keep drugs illegal?


116 posted on 01/04/2010 3:53:12 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Tolsti2
"Not only do they not care, but some actually believe drug use rates will drop if it’s legal."

It's just astonishing. One would have to be high to come to such a conclusion. Sort of like the same mentality behind the argument that nationalizing healthcare will bring down costs. Yes, these great intellectuals will be the death of us.

117 posted on 01/04/2010 4:06:16 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Shimmer1

Drug legalization, were it enacted should come with exactly the same penalties as being under the influence of alcohol i.e.,driving, consuming while driving, providing to minors,etc. No free pass.


118 posted on 01/04/2010 4:07:42 PM PST by John-Irish ("Shame of him who thinks of it''.)
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To: gogogodzilla

I don’t believe for a moment you ever opposed legalization. It’s a convenient trick, sorta like all the Socialists that call in C-Span and say how they “used to be Republicans.”


119 posted on 01/04/2010 4:08:13 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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