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To: HiTech RedNeck
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As good fishers, we don’t confuse bait with hook. But as we watch God’s design, not a lot of catching happens with a bare hook.

Salvation, itself, is the work of God and no one else, through Jesus, the Messiah of Israel -- and it's not from any person and it's not from any organization and it's not from any church and it's not from any human agency of any kind.

But, "giving the message" of salvation -- is the work of those who are already saved through Jesus, the Messiah of Israel's finished work on the cross, and from the message of the Gospel in the Word of God, itself.

Thus, the "job" of the Christian is giving the message of salvation. The job of God is to do the actual "saving" -- not the giver of the message, whether it be a person, a pastor, an organization or a church.

40 posted on 12/31/2009 6:07:38 PM PST by Star Traveler (At Christmas - remember to keep "Christ" in the One-World Government that we look forward to)
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To: Star Traveler

This looks like one of those MacArthur cat fights starting and I am going to back away after saying this.

Paul was an unusual case among Christians. Jesus literally flashed in and grabbed him. He took the hook bare, shoot, he was literally thrust upon it, while about quite a different business.

Many people who become Christians go through an acquaintance period with a gospel preaching church, attracted initially by some related quality, before they become believers. If they were asked after believing what brought them there, God would by all means get the glory, but they would speak of the love, kindness, generosity, etc. of the Christians they met and perhaps personally brought them to church.


46 posted on 12/31/2009 6:19:22 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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