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Angry voters look to government: Do something!
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 12/28/9 | Carla Marinucci, Chronicle Political Writer

Posted on 12/28/2009 7:41:03 AM PST by SmithL

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To: ClearCase_guy

I agree with your analysis. More regional autonomy would be preferable but DC has tried to cast off federalism for generations now.

Unfortunately, collision between irreconcileable positions and people seems inevitable.


21 posted on 12/28/2009 7:56:05 AM PST by Psalm 144 (What did you think NEW WORLD ORDER meant? The Constitution? States' rights? Individual liberty?)
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To: Huskrrrr

Taxman Lyrics by the Beatles

Let me tell you how it will be,
There’s one for you, nineteen for me,
‘Cause I’m the Taxman,
Yeah, I’m the Taxman.
Should five per cent appear too small,
Be thankful I don’t take it all.
‘Cos I’m the Taxman,
Yeah, I’m the Taxman.

(If you drive a car ), I’ll tax the street,
(If you try to sit ), I’ll tax your seat,
(If you get too cold ), I’ll tax the heat,
(If you take a walk ), I’ll tax your feet.
Taxman.

‘Cause I’m the Taxman,
Yeah, I’m the Taxman.
Don’t ask me what I want it for
(Taxman! Mister Wilson!)
If you don’t want to pay some more
(Taxman! Mister Heath!),
‘Cause I’m the Taxman,
Yeah, I’m the Taxman.

Now my advice for those who die, (Taxman!)
Declare the pennies on your eyes, (Taxman!)
‘Cause I’m the Taxman,
Yeah, I’m the Taxman.
And you’re working for no-one but me,
(Taxman).


22 posted on 12/28/2009 7:56:22 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: jongaltsr

“As for myself I would say - Do Nothing, Do it consistently.”

I would add a step.

1. Undo something
2. Repeat 1 until gvt is about 95% smaller
3. Do nothing. Do it consistently.


23 posted on 12/28/2009 7:59:31 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

How profound!


24 posted on 12/28/2009 8:03:16 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: SmithL

It’s the public sector versus the private sector, those currently employed by and retirees of the public sector who refuse to take a cut in pay or benefits to make life better for those they rule over. The Masters want more and more from the servile classes. What the Masters have to maintain is the illusion that the servile classes need them to maintain the society, when in truth, it is the Masters who are expendable.


25 posted on 12/28/2009 8:03:59 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Le Chien Rouge

There are always exceptions ;0)


26 posted on 12/28/2009 8:04:13 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Of course there is. It’s just nobody has the balls to do what is necessary. A few things:

1. Control the borders, with emphasis on the one with Mexico. That means no more illegal entry.
2. Begin deportation of illegal aliens. Not massive roundups, simply pick up the ones on the corners. Every day, as long as it takes.
3. Jail time for employers of illegals. No jobs, no illegals
4. Institute competition for education funds. Substandard results, no money.
5. Major tax cuts to encourage manufacturing and commerce.
6. All non hard science education is privatized with the exception of history and civics. No more government subsidization of communism, identity group studies, sexual perversion, anti Americanism, etc. You want to do that stuff, fine. You pay for it, or find patronage. That’s how it was done before.


27 posted on 12/28/2009 8:05:27 AM PST by ecomcon
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To: SmithL
If people are truly looking to government to do something, and I suspect that is the case, the 2010 elections are not going to be the anti-RAT cakewalk that many believe they will be. In fact, the frenzy of activity the RATS will engage in to spend the remaining 2/3 of the porkulus money will go a long way toward getting people to say, "See, they're doing what government is supposed to do. We need them to continue."
28 posted on 12/28/2009 8:07:03 AM PST by Dahoser (Separation of church and state? No, we need separation of media and state.)
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To: SmithL
town hall meetings crashed by conservatives

How can a legal constituent crash a townhall meeting? Talk about spin!

29 posted on 12/28/2009 8:13:13 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: SmithL

I have seen cigar store indians who showed more emotion than Arlen Specter in that picture


30 posted on 12/28/2009 8:23:57 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SmithL

Another attempt to smear good people by dumb and incompetent people.


31 posted on 12/28/2009 8:24:35 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: ecomcon

I agree with all those points, and/but that’s why I say there is no “mathemetical” solution. Without most of those points you made being put into effect...a serious long shot...even assuming a turnaround in the economy, CA will be permanently saddled with a societal (for want of a better word) burden on business formation & operation that could last most of a decade. CA will IMO empty out its’ many business enterprises and reach a low baseline of state-available revs. Ironically, from that low point, the state will have to reform itself from a business formation perspective if it hopes to attract new business. Should many of those things on your list come to pass, that trend will probably reverse....but that will remain to be seen. The libs bet, like everywhere else, is that once the entitlement mentality is enshrined in the majority of the population, the tipping point will have been reached.

Right now, as things are, and assuming that large demographic trends and conditions cannot be reversed outside of rounding up great swaths of the population in cattle cars, CA is headed directly for imminent insolvency.

I’ve lived in CA for 35+ years and am waiting for an estate to settle. When it does, I will be gone.


32 posted on 12/28/2009 8:26:40 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Voters who thought their ship came in with 0bama are on their own Titanic.)
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To: Bon mots

Man, that’s a great picture!


33 posted on 12/28/2009 8:27:37 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Voters who thought their ship came in with 0bama are on their own Titanic.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Thanks!

Now updated (With quotation marks...)

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2421/obamajobs2.jpg


34 posted on 12/28/2009 8:29:13 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: SmithL
Look at Specter's clenched jaw, it's like saying, “were going to shove this legislation “up yours” whether you like it or not!!”.
35 posted on 12/28/2009 8:33:37 AM PST by J. Wright
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
The libs bet, like everywhere else, is that once the entitlement mentality is enshrined in the majority of the population, the tipping point will have been reached.

You're right, and I fear the tipping point has been reached. I don't see a political solution short of some type of secession/reorganization/civil war, because the world view of the majority is no longer worth a damn. Gutless peons (not to say poor) who have no freedom, no liberty, no future, no glory, no fun, no risk, etc. I hate what the liberals have done to this state and my kids' freedom.

36 posted on 12/28/2009 9:23:55 AM PST by ecomcon
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To: SmithL
"Americans will remember 2009 as much for the grassroots protests - at "Tea Party" rallies and town hall meetings crashed by conservatives ..."

"Crashed" as in uninvited??? It amazes me that these liberals assume that other points of view or values are not permitted in our society or government.

37 posted on 12/28/2009 9:27:53 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: ecomcon

Here’s what I find the most ironic: I moved to CA in 1971, from NJ, which I felt was a grey, used-up, mafia-infested place. Now, I know I will be engaging in selective memory, but at that time, CA was practically a utopia. Without problems? Of course not. Smog sucked, esp in So. CA. But the state had the best schools and roads in the country, had an enormous industrial base, yes, complete with pollution. Had great weather, jobs were plentiful, and opportunity was everywhere.

That was then. CA today elects a total hack like a John Garamendi out of pure name recognition....and it has this funny effect 3000 miles away...of destroying our health system! CA does not recognize the concept that the slow, relentless deterioration of essentially every aspect of this state remarkably parallels the ascension to power of the liberals that began to be elected in the 70’s. The connection just isn’t made.


38 posted on 12/28/2009 9:38:18 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Voters who thought their ship came in with 0bama are on their own Titanic.)
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To: ModelBreaker
“As for myself I would say - Do Nothing, Do it consistently.”

I would add a step.

1. Undo something
2. Repeat 1 until gvt is about 95% smaller
3. Do nothing. Do it consistently.

Abso - lutely!


39 posted on 12/28/2009 9:55:19 AM PST by jongaltsr
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To: SmithL

To “crash” something means you weren’t supposed to be there. Conservatives went to their Congress people’s meeting but yet they somehow weren’t supposed to be there? What idiot wrote this?


40 posted on 12/28/2009 10:37:18 AM PST by chris_bdba
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