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Requesting Facts About Gay Parenting (vanity)
self ^ | 12/27/09 | Darkwolf377

Posted on 12/26/2009 9:52:45 PM PST by Darkwolf377

For research I'm doing into the facts about the effects of gay parents on children.

I've heard so much about how there are absolutely no differences on kids when they've been brought up in a "Heather Has Two Mommies" kind of household, but I've seen very little, if any research. The URL I found above seems like a lot of puffery.

I am not looking for opinions, but links and reports on any studies into this. If you have worked with this population, your insights would be welcomed.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: antifamily; gaymarriage; homosexualadoption; homosexualagenda; homosexuals; indoctrination; notnormal
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What's got me on this is a discussion I had about the attempts to normalize the concept of the gay-parent household. I keep hearing the same cliches from those who think the Massachusetts state court simply deciding to make gay marriage the law without the people's consent, and the "gay marriage is a civil right" thing, but again--where are the facts about how these kinds of families impact the children?
1 posted on 12/26/2009 9:52:45 PM PST by Darkwolf377
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To: Darkwolf377

Thank you for any information you can supply.


2 posted on 12/26/2009 9:53:07 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Merry Christmas-wishing atheist prolifer)
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To: Darkwolf377

Fact: Homosexuals are unable to have children without practicing heterosexuality. Therefore, there is no such thing as a “gay parent,” just a gay custodian.


3 posted on 12/26/2009 9:59:00 PM PST by Spike Knotts
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To: Darkwolf377

I do not have any sources, other than personal experience. My parents divorced b/c my father “came out of the closet”. So I had a Mom, a stepdad, a dad and another “step dad”. I also have had many friends with at least one set of “gay parents”.

Some of what I was exposed to being around gay parents.

By the age of 5, I knew what “queer” meant.

By the age of 8, I knew who “Tom of Finland” was.

By the age of 10, I knew which parks to avoid b/c they were hangouts for gay sex

By the age of 12, I not only knew what a “C**K ring” was, my father gave me two of them.

By the age of 16, I got used to seeing gay sex in public.

By the age of 19, I had been hit on more times by lesbians than by guys. And I am straight. Many of these were my father’s friends in an attempt to “convert” me.

The over-sexualization of children in today’s world is bad enough, but it is my belief (based upon comparisons with friends that had 2 straight parents and those who had gay parents) that it is even moreso when gay parents are involved.


4 posted on 12/26/2009 9:59:33 PM PST by reaganaut (When we FACE UP to the Majesty of God, we will find ourselves FACE DOWN in Worship" - Matt Redman)
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To: Darkwolf377
Poke around here . The Family Research Council references a lot of studies on the matter. Obviously, you can't cite the FRC in your arguments, as your activist friends will call them right-wing religious fanatics. But the studies themselves are usually done by universities.
5 posted on 12/26/2009 9:59:52 PM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: Darkwolf377

There has been a research study done and reported on FR . . . maybe 2-3 of them . . .

which document that there ARE SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES . . .

i.e. there are SIGNIFICANTLY MORE homosexual children coming from homosexual parents.

A lot—most, I think—of the earlier studies were done by homosexuals.

IT HAS NOW BEEN DOCUMENTED THAT THOSE RESEARCHERS COOKED THE BOOKS. THEY WITHHELD DATA PROVING THEIR CONCLUSIONS WRONG.

I don’t have the links handy.

I believe that Focus On The Family has such research studies available on their website.


6 posted on 12/26/2009 10:02:34 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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It confuses the hell out of kids and embarrasses them. They know they have “different” parents. Homosexuality is an emotional disorder acted out sexually.

“Gay” parents have a higher rate of child abuse - molestation - when compared to heterosexual parents. What I mean is that the percentage of homosexuals is smaller than heterosexuals and when you take into account the percentage of the whole compared to the heterosexual percentage there is more sexual abuse with “gay” parents. Also when it comes to adoption, “gay” couples, adopt a same sex baby or child. It's like an old ugly family recipe that is passed down through the family.

If you truly want to learn about homosexuality, may I recommend this site http://www.exodusinternational.org/ ?

Pay attention to the testimonies of former “gay” people and what lead them to the “gay” lifestyle choice. You'll notice it is ABUSE - emotionally or physically. They seek to satisfy a void or a deficit in their life.

Real life stories:

http://www.exodusinternational.org/stories

7 posted on 12/26/2009 10:02:58 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Darkwolf377

Oh lawdy


8 posted on 12/26/2009 10:07:39 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream.)
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To: Spike Knotts
Fact: Homosexuals are unable to have children without practicing heterosexuality. Therefore, there is no such thing as a “gay parent,” just a gay custodian.

OK, but you know what I mean. Besides, as someone with children who've been adopted in my family, I beg to differ with the idea that one isn't a parent just because he or she adopted because he or she was unable to bear children. I refuse to allow the gays to twist words, and like it or not, when a gay person adopts, then they are a parent at that point.

When the person with whom I discussed this with interrupted me to say "I know these two lesbian moms and their biological kids--" I interrupted her and said, "It's impossible for two women to have kids." The women in question both were inseminated from the same donor, both gave birth to kids... It just hit me as supremely creepy, hearing human childbirth discussed as if it's just a matter of getting some guy to donate a little fluid, and OF COURSE both women are the parents of all the kids. It's this degradation of the basic ideas of human reproduction that made me want to post this thread.

9 posted on 12/26/2009 10:09:54 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Merry Christmas-wishing atheist prolifer)
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I can’t tell you for sure. I know SEVERAL gay couples raising kids in my neighborhood. The kids seem fine but that is all from a neighborly view.

How they had kids: One couple is raising one of their bio-grandchildren because the parents were unfit. One couple used a surrogate and egg donor. Two couples, one female and one male, adopted special needs kids. One child was born a crack addict. He is a difficult child with no attention span.

While I agree that a mom and a dad, married and committed, make the best parents, I have had to incorporate the whole “two mommies / daddies” thing into our lives because they are all around, and I want my children to treat everyone properly. I don’t know any gays who really wanted to be gays. I know orthodox gays who force themselves to be straight. I do not know what their inner lives are like. With all that Tiger Woods got away with, no one will ever know what a supposed family man might do after work some nights. Or maybe not.

It does not seem like people can help being homosexual at all. I am OK with it, just not with any anti-Christian or anti-conservative agenda.


10 posted on 12/26/2009 10:10:23 PM PST by Yaelle
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Homosexual Parenting: Is It Time For Change? - AMERICAN COLLEGE OF PEDIATRICIANS

There's facts at the link. Such as : Finally, research has demonstrated considerable risks to children exposed to the homosexual lifestyle. Violence between homosexual partners is two to three times more common than among married heterosexual couples.

11 posted on 12/26/2009 10:10:37 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: reaganaut

Thank you for sharing your personal experience. It had a lot more real information in it than the conversation I had this afternoon about this “wonderful” lesbian couple.


12 posted on 12/26/2009 10:11:16 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Merry Christmas-wishing atheist prolifer)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

Thank you, will look into that information. I will cite the actual report, FRC and all, because I want to be upfront about this stuff. I don’t care if the folks I talk to about this mock the source, I’ll just say, “Show me what you got.”


13 posted on 12/26/2009 10:12:38 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Merry Christmas-wishing atheist prolifer)
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To: Darkwolf377

Who cares?


14 posted on 12/26/2009 10:12:54 PM PST by goseminoles
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On fatherless households (against "two mom" idea)
Children from fatherless homes account for: 63% of youth suicides. (Source: US Dept. of Health & Human Services, Bureau of the Census). 71% of pregnant teenagers. (Source: US Dept. of Health & Human Services) 90% of all homeless and runaway children. 70% of juveniles in state-operated institutions come from fatherless homes (Source: U.S. Dept. of Justice, Special Report, Sept 198 85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders. (Source: Center for Disease Control).
_Children living in households with unrelated adults are nearly 50 times as likely to die of inflicted injuries as children living with two biological parents, according to a study of Missouri abuse reports published in the journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics in 2005.
15 posted on 12/26/2009 10:12:54 PM PST by Marie2 (The second mouse gets the cheese.)
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You must be mistaken, because if you are on the right you couldn’t possibly know the realities of homosexual life.

/sarc


16 posted on 12/26/2009 10:15:26 PM PST by steve0 (My plan B: christianexodus.org/)
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To: DJ MacWoW

There isn’t enough data to determine scientifically the dangers of same sex parenting, however, every homosexual I know has secondary mental problems. That can’t be good for children.


17 posted on 12/26/2009 10:15:47 PM PST by mmadi106999
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To: Yaelle
While I agree that a mom and a dad, married and committed, make the best parents, I have had to incorporate the whole “two mommies / daddies” thing into our lives because they are all around, and I want my children to treat everyone properly. I don’t know any gays who really wanted to be gays. I know orthodox gays who force themselves to be straight. I do not know what their inner lives are like. With all that Tiger Woods got away with, no one will ever know what a supposed family man might do after work some nights. Or maybe not. It does not seem like people can help being homosexual at all. I am OK with it, just not with any anti-Christian or anti-conservative agenda.

I'm not about slamming gays--I really don't care what they do in their homes. I can't figure out the obsessive bashing of them anymore than I can the ridiculous claim that gay marriage is a "right". Of course being straight doesn't mean one's kids are going to be pure or good or whatever.

None of that is what I'm interested in. All I am interested in is the facts about the impact on the kids.

Thanks for your point of view, I don't want to gay bash, never have. Some of my best friends are gay. That doesn't mean I think this kind of thing is right for kids, and I just want to see the facts, which the left claim to always be so interested in...unless, of course, when they're inconvenient to their positions.

18 posted on 12/26/2009 10:16:08 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Merry Christmas-wishing atheist prolifer)
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http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1908243,00.ht

Children growing up without dads, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, are more likely to be delinquent and twice as likely to end up in prison.


19 posted on 12/26/2009 10:16:08 PM PST by Marie2 (The second mouse gets the cheese.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Thank you, that’s just the kind of information I’m looking for.


20 posted on 12/26/2009 10:16:59 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Merry Christmas-wishing atheist prolifer)
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