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The Green Dream: Can Obama Stop America's Gas-Guzzling Ways?
Der Spiegel ^ | December 15, 2009 | Klaus Brinkbäumer

Posted on 12/16/2009 6:22:40 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Never before has a US government been as serious in its warnings against the dangers of climate change as the Obama administration. But Americans are divided: Half of them regard climate protection policies as socialist, and half want to save the world. Can Obama make America go green?

There are parts of the United States where there is no real evidence of social discord, of the loathing and aggressiveness with which different groups view one another, and where no one seems to question the prevailing view.

In Las Vegas, Nevada, they build artificial waterfalls and big roads for big cars because opulence and wastefulness are part of the city's raison d'etre. Las Vegas residents have no moral qualms about their lifestyle and the excesses they see around them. Oil and water have always come from somewhere, they reason, so why should that stop? It makes perfect sense that, in Washington, Nevada's senators and lobbyists would champion the causes important to their voters: growth, employment and progress -- all without taxes or regulation. From their perspective, there is no good reason why rivers in the desert should ever run dry.

Berkeley, California, is a similar kind of place, a city where everyone has more or the less the same convictions -- the only difference being that Berkeley's residents have very different ideas than the people in Las Vegas.(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at spiegel.de ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: algore; climaquiddick; climatechange; climategate; globalwarming; gorebullwarming; obama
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They're still drinking the Kool-Aid it would seem...
1 posted on 12/16/2009 6:22:41 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

MYOB........Colonel Klink.


2 posted on 12/16/2009 6:27:18 PM PST by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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In Las Vegas, Nevada, they build artificial waterfalls and big roads for big cars because opulence and wastefulness are part of the city's raison d'etre. Las Vegas residents have no moral qualms about their lifestyle and the excesses they see around them. Oil and water have always come from somewhere, they reason, so why should that stop? It makes perfect sense that, in Washington, Nevada's senators and lobbyists would champion the causes important to their voters: growth, employment and progress -- all without taxes or regulation. From their perspective, there is no good reason why rivers in the desert should ever run dry.

I know this is a translation and idioms are always tricky but this author is attributing thoughts, attitudes and actions to literally millions of people with no apparent proof, research or sources. Furthermore I have yet to hear a single person from Las Vegas or anywhere else espouse such views.

It sounds like a greenie claiming that lumberjacks only fell trees because they like to watch them crash down.

3 posted on 12/16/2009 6:28:46 PM PST by relictele
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some people are just so blind, dumb and deaf


4 posted on 12/16/2009 6:29:02 PM PST by GeronL (Join the Palin Beer Summit Putsch!!)
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Does he even realize that Democratic Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is from Nevada?


5 posted on 12/16/2009 6:30:17 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2 million for Sarah Palin: What will you do?)
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Those Germans just don't know.

Think of it this way ~ they live in a country that's about as big as Ohio and Indiana combined.

Northern California is home to the people who got their water cut off this year for the sake of salmon or something.

They hate the current regime. These Germans think they love the regime.

Maybe they misunderstand the term Northern California and think that it applies exclusively to San Francisco's annual naked homosexual parade or some such.

Yeah, that's it ~ the gay guys ~ these German reporters do get around eh.

And then there's that Las Vegas thing ~ can you imagine that the Germans really do think that Harry Reid, majority leader of the Senate is doing what they want him to do in Las Vegas?

From what I read on the net they are getting ready to lynch the man and he's already found it's not safe to go home during Senate breaks or recess.

Someday we're going to have to take those guys in Germany and bang their heads together and shout out them that "YOU DON'T KNOW NOTHING".

6 posted on 12/16/2009 6:30:26 PM PST by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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And THEY have the autobahn with parts of it with unlimited speeds. If they were so concerned about global warming the Germans would put a 50mph limit on the autobahn. (I’m NOT advocating that, the German autobahn ist wunderbar!)


7 posted on 12/16/2009 6:30:51 PM PST by Gapplega
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The question is: How can this be changed? Assuming that one side is indeed right this time -- not just because the existence of climate change has been proven without a doubt, but also because it is abundantly clear that the United States has played a bigger role in bringing about climate change than any other country -- how can politics and the way American society thinks and acts be changed? And how quickly?

Oh God....it's worse than the first paragraph.

8 posted on 12/16/2009 6:31:00 PM PST by relictele
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It sounds like a greenie claiming that lumberjacks only fell trees because they like to watch them crash down.

There's also that one last plaintiff Hooooooooooooooooooooot from the spotted owls riding the tree down.

9 posted on 12/16/2009 6:32:19 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Gore is the fifth horseman of the apocalypse. He rides an icy horse bringing cold wherever he goes.)
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Reposted - it shows green hype (ethanolgate):

Kernel-nomics - big ethanol's inflated job claims

Snips:

The group claims that granting its petition to increase the amount of ethanol blended into gasoline from 10 percent to 15 percent would create an additional 136,101 “green jobs.”

Our analysis shows that only 12,000 to 27,000 jobs would be created at a cost to taxpayers of between $195,000 and $446,000 per job per year for a total cost of $ 5.4 billion per year. Other independent analysts suggest that 38,000 jobs would be created at the cost of $139,000 per job per

“In short, there are claims to economic outcomes associated with ethanol production that seasoned analysts cannot swallow, but that proponents and politicians will certainly tout as gospel unless confronted with better (or, for the most part, actual) research. The gap between sensible analysis and outright nonsense is huge.”3

10 posted on 12/16/2009 6:32:52 PM PST by MamaDearest
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So the German argument is that we need a Fuhrer?

“We have no choice,” says Kiser. “We can’t wait for ideas from the White House to trickle down to the bottom. We have to be visionary at the local level, and make being visionary part of the mainstream.” But how? Flanagan and Kiser know that they are dealing with like-minded people in their cities and along the heavily Democratic coasts, but the way people think along the coasts has nothing to do with the people living in Las Vegas or Missouri.


11 posted on 12/16/2009 6:34:11 PM PST by RepublicanMeansAmerican
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“Berkeley, California, is a similar kind of place, a city where everyone has more or the less the same convictions — the only difference being that Berkeley’s residents have very different ideas than the people in Las Vegas”

Would you rather live in Berkely or Vegas?


12 posted on 12/16/2009 6:34:37 PM PST by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir!)
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Would you rather live in Berkely or Vegas?

Vegas, but given a REAL choice, neither. I lived in Berkeley (Kensington, actually) during the 60s, that was quite enough for me!

13 posted on 12/16/2009 6:39:13 PM PST by Disambiguator
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Half of them regard climate protection policies as socialist, and half want to save the world.

This is nuts. The world is in no danger from CO2. None whatever.

I never complain of these goons and their use of private planes and the nonsensical "carbon footprint." It's a fiction. Warmists, rockers, they can fly anywhere they want whenever they want. It does no harm whatever.

14 posted on 12/16/2009 6:40:16 PM PST by Bahbah (Only dead fish go with the flow)
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not just because the existence of climate change has been proven without a doubt

Now the Russians confirm that UK climate scientists manipulated data to exaggerate global warming

15 posted on 12/16/2009 6:43:58 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Joe Wilson said "You lie!" in a room full of 500 politicians. Who was he talking about?)
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I haven’t seen Berkely (saw SF, it sucked), have been to Vegas, it sucked, just nowhere near as bad.


16 posted on 12/16/2009 6:44:15 PM PST by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir!)
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I’d rather live in Berlin!


17 posted on 12/16/2009 6:44:53 PM PST by Gapplega
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Russians? lol. Trouble. Always. (I’m half Polish).


18 posted on 12/16/2009 6:46:02 PM PST by Gapplega
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The real answer for the eco-zombies is that they should kill themselves by driving their cars into the nearest bottomless abyss. This would eliminate their CO2 output, eliminate their gas-guzzler and rid us of their insanity.


19 posted on 12/16/2009 6:58:01 PM PST by hal ogen
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To: Gapplega
Youtube: "Hey Giorgy! These Uzbeks bet me 20 kopeks I couldn't get 3 words out of you!"
20 posted on 12/16/2009 6:59:59 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Joe Wilson said "You lie!" in a room full of 500 politicians. Who was he talking about?)
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