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Toledo police shoot, kill 62-year-old woman
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Posted on 12/16/2009 12:57:47 AM PST by Chet 99

Police action called 'self-defense' in shooting death of mentally ill woman

Toledo's police chief says his preliminary review of a police-involved shooting Monday night indicates the officers acted in self-defense and that the shooting was justified.

TPD chief Michael Navarre identified the woman killed at a group home as Linda Hicks, 62. She was shot and killed during a confrontation with police at a group home on Fernwood near Detroit Avenue in Toledo. Police were dispatched after a call that the woman had been brandishing a knife.

Chief Navarre said Officer Diane Chandler, a three-year member of the police department, answered the call with another officer, Rebecca Kenney. Kenney at first tried to use a taser to subdue Hicks but the taser malfunctioned.

Police say Hicks was holding her hands underneath a pillow in her bed and was ordered to show police her hands. Instead, police say Hicks pulled scissors from underneath the pillow and threatened the officers.

Officer Chandler shot Hicks four times, killing her instantly. Hicks had no police record but police say she was being treated for health problems, both physical and mental.

Chief Navarre says Officer Chandler acted in self-defense. "Officer Chandler and Officer Kenney both indicated Linda Hicks advanced toward Chandler with scissors in raised position."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Ohio
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1 posted on 12/16/2009 12:57:48 AM PST by Chet 99
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"Officer Chandler and Officer Kenney both indicated Linda Hicks advanced toward Chandler with scissors in raised position."

Liars...

2 posted on 12/16/2009 12:58:28 AM PST by Chet 99
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That would be my guess murders and liars and too chicken to have a badge.


3 posted on 12/16/2009 1:01:31 AM PST by JLS
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man...cops will shoot yer ass so quick these days...it’s this damn every cops really thinks he’s a navy SEAL on patrol in injun country mentality

dumb....and dangerous

that woman shoulda had a pitbull Chet..


4 posted on 12/16/2009 1:06:32 AM PST by wardaddy (Angel Flight by Radney Foster on GAC, if you don't tear up then you must be mighty cold)
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#1 on Obama’s death panel even before the “Health Care” bill is passed. Shot four times? The shooter should go to prison. How about to the Thompson Prison in ILL. Lots of room there.


5 posted on 12/16/2009 1:19:41 AM PST by DISCO
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To: Chet 99

Yeah, those elderly women are a real threat to the new breed of sissy cops we have now.

Frightened little mini-tyrants armed to the teeth with an assortment of citizen-torture devices.

The men in blue that we used to respect are now the men in black that we fear and loathe.

America’s senior citizens beware.


6 posted on 12/16/2009 1:26:38 AM PST by Boucheau
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To: Chet 99
If someone was coming at me with scissors in a menacing fashion. I would shoot them.
7 posted on 12/16/2009 2:14:00 AM PST by BigCinBigD (")
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Just because a shooting is “justified” per se, don’t me its a good shoot.

As someone who has spent severals years, way back when as a full-time officer during my college days. And then many, many years as a Reserve Officer and still currently a Reserve Deputy Sheriff.

If I shot everyone that I could have legally “justified” shooting. I would have filled up a small graveyard...

Politicians, Law Enforcement Administrators and the rank and file Cops themselves need to rethink the way they conduct business today.

Killing people simply because you can “justify” the killing is wrong.


8 posted on 12/16/2009 2:21:22 AM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: Chet 99

Isn’t this why they have tasers and bean-bag rounds and stuff ?


9 posted on 12/16/2009 2:25:57 AM PST by PLMerite (Ride to the sound of the Guns - I'll probably need help.)
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“In an interview with 13abc, Hicks’s daughter Carmen Boyd said her mother was not a violent person and was not capable of killing someone.”
Every swinging and swingless dick on the planet is capable of killing someone.


10 posted on 12/16/2009 2:32:20 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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Just out of curiosity, what do you base that opinion on?


11 posted on 12/16/2009 2:32:56 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: BigCinBigD

I would have shot her too.


12 posted on 12/16/2009 2:37:25 AM PST by death2tyrants
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To: Boucheau

Had a call, about 1979, of a man with a sucking chest wound having a beer in a bar. Sure enough he did. His wife, an “elderly lady” in her 60s had shanked him with a pair of scissors right in the lung during a disagreement in their home.


13 posted on 12/16/2009 2:38:00 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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RIP.


14 posted on 12/16/2009 2:59:46 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Chet 99
So, let's assume the cop was probably 6' tall and about 200 lbs. This is not an uncommon size for a cop. Let's assume further he had a nightstick or should have. He can't deal with an old lady with a pair of scissors?

I wasn't there so maybe there's a justification but it's just very hard to believe.

15 posted on 12/16/2009 3:52:59 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Obama: The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers)
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“I wasn’t there...”
That pretty much sums it up.


16 posted on 12/16/2009 4:07:22 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Chet 99





17 posted on 12/16/2009 4:25:57 AM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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"So, let's assume the cop was probably 6' tall and about 200 lbs. This is not an uncommon size for a cop. Let's assume further he had a nightstick or should have. He can't deal with an old lady with a pair of scissors?"

From the article posted above:
"Officer Diane Chandler, a three-year member of the police department, answered the call with another officer, Rebecca Kenney."


18 posted on 12/16/2009 4:27:54 AM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: Scotsman will be Free; Chet 99; muir_redwoods; The Magical Mischief Tour; Boucheau

Well, I vote that the US Govt. put teams of lawyers in ever state and have them linked up to every Police Department. That way, just like the military has to ask lawyers for permission to do something in Iraq or Afghanistan, so will each police officer on each call. It only makes sense. Obviously every police officer is a “pussy with a badge and a gun”. We NEED complete oversight on every call and every issue the police handle. It’s plain to see that we live an east-German or Cuban style state with each cop being nothing short of a mindless storm trooper who are totally incompetent. I vote that all police need to be disarmed. It’s only right because they are so threatening. Just disregard the instances of all the police officers being assassinated this past year. There’s obviously no reason for the “idiots with badges” to be hyper-vigilant.


19 posted on 12/16/2009 4:34:19 AM PST by brent13a (You're a Great American! NO you're a Great American! NO NO NO YOU'RE a Great American! Nooo.....WTF?)
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To: Chet 99

The thing is nowadays, it seems the cops have no patience. The lady is nuts so give her a little leeway and step back. The desire to solve a situation asap seems to often have bad results. I realize someone with scissors can be dangerous, but why aren’t there other ways to deal with this than shooting someone 4 times? What about rubber bullets or throwing a net on them? It just seems there should be a better way because expecting mentally ill people to be logical and follow orders is itself illogical.


20 posted on 12/16/2009 4:42:40 AM PST by visualops (Freepin' on my Pre!)
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