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To: GodGunsGuts
In his new book, The Deniable Darwin (Discovery Institute Press, 2009), published just before the ClimateGate scandal broke, mathematician David Berlinski explained that scientists should not be trusted to check themselves--no more than anyone else on the planet, and maybe less so, since grant money is involved.

Scientists are not exempt from all the human foibles the rest of us are, no matter how objective they claim to be, how pure their motives supposedly are in the search for *truth* or whatever it is they're currently claiming to look for, no matter how intellectually superior they try to pass themselves off as.

There's simply too much to be gained by lying. We don't trust politicians for the same reason.

6 posted on 12/08/2009 8:36:31 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Lack of trust is becoming institutionalized in our society. It’s the only sensible approach, and it’s really sad to see it come to this.


9 posted on 12/08/2009 8:38:30 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: metmom

Exactly, as if any structure or method can cure the excesses of man’s inherently sinful nature. It was in part this very recognition that prompted our founders set up a government with separate powers, all checking on each other, and all jealous of their delegated powers....and not even that was enough to prevent man’s sin from finding a way to muck things up!


12 posted on 12/08/2009 8:49:57 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: metmom

“Scientists are not exempt from all the human foibles the rest of us are, no matter how objective they claim to be, how pure their motives supposedly are in the search for *truth* or whatever it is they’re currently claiming to look for, no matter how intellectually superior they try to pass themselves off as.

There’s simply too much to be gained by lying. We don’t trust politicians for the same reason.”

Heresy! Sacrilege! (of course you’re right, but...) Blasphemy!


26 posted on 12/08/2009 9:39:45 AM PST by Leonard210 (Tagline? We don't need no stinkin' tagline.)
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To: metmom
Scientists are not exempt from all the human foibles the rest of us are, no matter how objective they claim to be, how pure their motives supposedly are in the search for *truth* or whatever it is they're currently claiming to look for, no matter how intellectually superior they try to pass themselves off as.

What do you propose think we should do about it? Eliminate peer review?

38 posted on 12/08/2009 11:33:22 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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