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The Honduras Conundrum (NY Times is clueless)
New York Times ^ | December 5, 2009

Posted on 12/05/2009 4:48:30 AM PST by don-o

There is wide agreement that last week’s presidential election in Honduras, won by the conservative leader Porfirio Lobo, was clean and fair. But it doesn’t settle the country’s political crisis, nor the question of how the world should treat Honduras.

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Despite all the missteps, Honduras’s military and militaries across the region need to know that coups will not be tolerated. Hondurans need to be able to move on and rebuild their democracy.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: honduras; manuelzelaya; notacoup; porfiriolobo
Obviously these people will not be confused by the facts. Their mind is made up. It's more to be pitied than scorned, maybe.
1 posted on 12/05/2009 4:48:30 AM PST by don-o
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2 posted on 12/05/2009 4:49:45 AM PST by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Lance Corporal is in Iraq.)
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To: don-o
won by the conservative leader Porfirio Lobo, was clean and fair. But it doesn’t settle the country’s political crisis
Right. Because the wrong person won, in the eyes of the dying slimes.

When you cut through all the fog and spin of this article, it gets down to this:

F* the votes. If the "wrong person" wins, it's by DEFINITION undemocratic.

3 posted on 12/05/2009 4:51:55 AM PST by samtheman
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To: don-o
It was not a coup, and the only thing wrong with their democracy right now is the damage Obama and his ilk caused by their handling of the situation.
4 posted on 12/05/2009 4:54:22 AM PST by jwparkerjr
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To: don-o

“But it doesn’t settle the country’s political crisis”

The only political crisis they had was Obama trying to reinstate a Marxist thug ;-)


5 posted on 12/05/2009 4:55:32 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: don-o

There was no coup. An attempted coup was stopped in its tracks by the Honduran people.


6 posted on 12/05/2009 4:56:59 AM PST by Bahbah (Only dead fish go with the flow)
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To: samtheman; don-o
the United States, other countries in the region and Europe should take the election as a starting point to try to patch back together a democratic government.

Samtheman - agreed with your point entirely. I also took this from the article. It would probably take .00005 seconds for me to Google a billion references in the NYT to how nation building doesn't work (when conservatives do it), but I'll let that slide.

What really frosts my @$$ is these clowns saying things like how WE and the Europeans need to patch back together a democratic government. The article starts off saying that the election was clean and fair. IT IS A DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT BY DEFINITION, YOU LIBERAL ASS CLOWNS. Which brings me full circle, to the sub title of the article - the NYT is clueless.

7 posted on 12/05/2009 4:58:27 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Maureen Dowd is right. I DON'T like our President's color. He's a Red.)
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To: don-o
Hondurans need to be able to move on and rebuild their democracy.

They are moving on. They dumped the Commie and they're not looking back.

8 posted on 12/05/2009 5:00:37 AM PST by csvset
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To: Hardastarboard

But you know. A communist never gives up. Every argument is a tool. Every situation is an opportunity. Nothing matters but the over-all goal: advancing the spread of communism.


9 posted on 12/05/2009 5:04:43 AM PST by samtheman
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To: don-o

I didn’t read the article. I don’t have to. The NYT has pure and utter disdain for the entire US Constitution save the phrase in the First amendment, “freedom of the press” (which they see as permission to trash this nation every chance they get or make up) so I see them as never respecting or honoring a similar Constitution in another country. The reality is that had Zelaya been able to abrogate his country’s Constitution the way both political parties have abrogatged ours, then Honduras today would have a Marxist in power, just like Cuba, just like Venezuala, and just like.....us.


10 posted on 12/05/2009 5:15:20 AM PST by cashless
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To: samtheman

As nauseating as the thought is, I believe you are correct. The communists never give up, do they?


11 posted on 12/05/2009 5:18:36 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Maureen Dowd is right. I DON'T like our President's color. He's a Red.)
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To: Bahbah
There was no coup. An attempted coup was stopped in its tracks by the Honduran people.

Exactly!

12 posted on 12/05/2009 5:53:25 AM PST by fedupjohn (If we try to fight the war on terror with eyes shut + ears packed with wax, innocent people will die)
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To: don-o

The NYT will never get it. Now they have fallen below Pravda in their so called journalistic ethics (now an oxymoron) by refusing to pay attention to the climate e-mails without being so dismissive.
The NYT clearly misconstrued the political developments in Honduras. Zelaya tried to subvert the constitution by conducting a phony poll which he hoped would enable him to stand for a second term in office. This Latin American country rightly understood that a one term limit on its presidency was essential to prevent the tyranny of a dictatorship. The judicial branch acted decisively to correct this breech and restore a constitutional interim government. Later, a valid and legal election was held that represented the will of the people.
The NYT is loosing credibility and readers everyday. Its staff is shrinking, further reducing its capabilities to gather, edit and disseminate the news. The NYT no longer can realistically be considered the “newspaper of record” or the news organizations that sets the agendas for public discussion. And that is a very good thing.


13 posted on 12/05/2009 7:52:30 AM PST by grumpygresh
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To: don-o

“coups will not be tolerated”

really? The Slimes seems to have no problem with the bloodless coup in the USA staged by the Marxists and commies.

I can’t wait for the day when Obozo and Holder are frog-marched out of the WH and tried for treason. You know, stranger things have happened...


14 posted on 12/05/2009 8:05:57 AM PST by Canedawg (Bring lawyers, guns and money.)
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To: don-o

The NYTs is an enemy of our Republic and a threat to national security.


15 posted on 12/05/2009 11:18:29 AM PST by TigersEye (Sarah Palin 2010 - We Can't Afford To Wait)
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