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UK: Met Office to re-examine 160 years of climate data [could take three years]
The Times ^ | 12/5/2009 | Ben Webster

Posted on 12/04/2009 11:36:18 PM PST by bruinbirdman

The Met Office plans to re-examine 160 years of temperature data after admitting that public confidence in the science on man-made global warming has been shattered by leaked e-mails.

The new analysis of the data will take three years, meaning that the Met Office will not be able to state with absolute confidence the extent of the warming trend until the end of 2012.

The Met Office database is one of three main sources of temperature data analysis on which the UN’s main climate change science body relies for its assessment that global warming is a serious danger to the world. This assessment is the basis for next week’s climate change talks in Copenhagen aimed at cutting CO2 emissions.

The Government is attempting to stop the Met Office from carrying out the re-examination, arguing that it would be seized upon by climate change sceptics.

The Met Office works closely with the University of East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit (CRU), which is being investigated after e-mails written by its director, Phil Jones, appeared to show an attempt to manipulate temperature data and block alternative scientific views.

The Met Office’s published data showing a warming trend draws heavily on CRU analysis. CRU supplied all the land temperature data to the Met Office, which added this to its own analysis of sea temperature data.

Since the stolen e-mails were published, the chief executive of the Met Office has written to national meteorological offices in 188 countries asking their permission to release the raw data that they collected from their weather stations.

The Met Office is confident that its analysis will eventually be shown to be correct. However, it says it wants to create a new and fully open method of analysing temperature data.

The development will add to fears that influential sceptics in

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climatechangedata; climategate

1 posted on 12/04/2009 11:36:18 PM PST by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman

All the raw data, the analysis of that data and the conclusions need to be publicly available on their Web site for anyone to analyze that wants to.

That is the only way to have confidence in the results. It is as simple as that.


2 posted on 12/04/2009 11:43:44 PM PST by DB
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To: bruinbirdman

Heh...Might be tougher than they think since the original data was lost (or intentionally destroyed)...

I’m sure their investigation will therefore conclude that the results are correct (assuming that those investigating are looking for grants themselves (probably) - heh)...


3 posted on 12/04/2009 11:43:45 PM PST by Deagle
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To: bruinbirdman
However, it says it wants to create a new and fully open method of analysing temperature data.


Ahh... the scientific approach, at long last...

4 posted on 12/04/2009 11:43:58 PM PST by az_gila (AZ - need less democrats - one Governor down... more to go.)
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To: bruinbirdman

A crack in the dyke?


5 posted on 12/04/2009 11:44:09 PM PST by jeffc (They're coming to take me away! Ha-ha, hey-hey, ho-ho!)
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To: bruinbirdman; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Normandy; TenthAmendmentChampion; FrPR; enough_idiocy; ...
 



Beam Me to Planet Gore !

6 posted on 12/04/2009 11:49:06 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: bruinbirdman

3 more years to find ways to disguise the truth, cheat, lie, and plan our destruction.


7 posted on 12/04/2009 11:50:19 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: bruinbirdman

Are people really that dumb to believe in this hocus pocus?


8 posted on 12/04/2009 11:52:42 PM PST by Dallas59 (No To O -Time is going by really really really really slow.)
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To: bruinbirdman

How are they going to do that when the original data has been destroyed?


9 posted on 12/04/2009 11:53:50 PM PST by abigailsmybaby (To understan' the livin' you got to commune wit' da dead.)
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To: Dallas59

Not so much anymore thank goodness! Heck, even NASA seems to be involved in the charade! Understand they are pursuing grants for global warming that can be funneled into space exploration. They are also hiding data and not responding to Freedom of Information action. Draw your own conclusions.


10 posted on 12/04/2009 11:55:59 PM PST by Deagle
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To: bruinbirdman
The BBC just trashed the Times' report. There will be no re-examination of the data.  The Met Office is apparently trying to bolster Copenhagen, and sweep Climategate under the rug with their "data" that proves global warming:

...The MO has written to 188 countries for permission to publish the historic data it says proves that the world is warming up due to man-made emissions.

A spokesman denied reports ministers had tried to block the publication.

The material, dating back 160 years from more than 1,000 weather stations around the world, is expected to be released this week....

An MO spokesman denied it would spend up to three years re-examining the climate change data, and said it had already planned to publish the material long before the "Climategate" controversy broke.

Link


11 posted on 12/05/2009 12:43:22 AM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: bruinbirdman
Which means that all climate laws should be postponed for three years at a minimum (I prefer indefinitely since AGW is a crock).

Did Boxer get that message? Umm...no.

12 posted on 12/05/2009 12:47:41 AM PST by UAConservative (Audemus Jura Nostra Defendere)
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To: bruinbirdman; All
I am keeping a running file ( always updated ) on this fraud and scandal: "Hadley CRU has apparently been hacked –[epic fraud?]"

Click the picture:


And yes, it is a swindle- a fraud and a cheat and a scam-- a deliberately designed construct intended to con you out of things you hold dear-- money, prosperity, freedom... and a few other things, as well.

13 posted on 12/05/2009 1:48:32 AM PST by backhoe (All Across America, the Lights are being relit again...)
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To: abigailsmybaby
How are they going to do that when the original data has been destroyed?

Moreover, why would it take three years to analyze? Its a lame excuse for three more years of funding crap science.

14 posted on 12/05/2009 2:44:32 AM PST by Go Gordon
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To: Go Gordon
How are they going to do that when the original data has been destroyed?

SOP of the warmies...create new data.

15 posted on 12/05/2009 2:59:34 AM PST by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: abigailsmybaby
"How are they going to do that when the original data has been destroyed?"

What they destroyed was their copy that they accumulated from multiple national sources around the world. The "original" original data is still in whatever repositories the weather offices of various nations maintain. It's a question of going out and re-collecting and re-collating all of that information. I suggest they hire Steve McIntyre to head the effort.

16 posted on 12/05/2009 5:33:23 AM PST by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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To: Deagle
Heh...Might be tougher than they think since the original data was lost (or intentionally destroyed)...

Not necessarily. The CRU copy of the data may be lost, but the entities that they originally got the raw data from probably still have copies. They may come under considerable pressure to not re-release the data if an unbiased examination makes Global Warming come into doubt.

17 posted on 12/05/2009 9:26:03 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Fred Nerks; ...

Thanks Ernest_at_the_Beach.


18 posted on 12/06/2009 1:53:44 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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