White House Science Officials Defend Climate Change Data Amid E-Mail Scandal

Fox News ^ | 12/2/09 | Unknown

[DallasDeb]

I know, I know, but it isn’t permanent. The guillotine is.

[Red Boots]

One e-mail from 2003 was by John Holdren, then of Harvard University and now the president's science adviser.

Hmmmm. Why am I not surprised ? I wonder what it said ? Anyone know ?

[Blood of Tyrants]

And liberals have absolutely no problem with this. That SOB ought to be tried for treason.

[Blood of Tyrants]

The true goal of the elite is to destroy the middle class and return the world to a systems of rulers and peasants. They literally HATE the fact that us peasants have SOME of the same luxuries that they do.

[Blood of Tyrants]

I like the ides of shooting the bastards. You can even bring your own gun.

[Blood of Tyrants]

Originally tar and feathers was mostly naturally occurring asphalt and WAS NOT boiled. It was applied cold to humiliate the individual, not to injure them.

[Blood of Tyrants]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2398832/posts

Your answer is in there.

[b4its2late]

Defending the indefensible.

[Tzimisce]

This is what we call “co-conspirators”.

[Muzzle_em]

Well, that is the “fill in the blank” part of my comment.

Seriously, I’m SICK TO DEATH of them all!
I consider them to be mortal enemies of this country!

[MajorThomas]

I am wondering if this scenario makes any sense. Say you are one of the liberal Presidents, Prime Ministers, Governors, Rulers, or Commanders... etc of the many "developed" countries around the world.

If your country resembles most countries, your populations that are rich in urban development or even the development outside the urban areas, are using energy and resources that in some instances are limited or not boundless. Is that a bad thing? Not really. But because our country, like many other countries are now finding that their companies and corporations that produce products we all "shop for" cannot compete with the newcomers on the block, countries like China, what if they came up with a way to "hoodwink other rulers into thinking they have to level the playing field." That is to say, since we know that China is going to be able to produce products for prices that Americans and other western nations cannot even begin to compete with, what if our liberal minded rulers came up with a trick to keep China from running away with all the spoils.

So, we come up with a plan that assigns carbon levels to production outcomes. We all know that factories that produce use more hydrocarbons and produce more products and by-products that the "climatologists" will argue "hurt the worlds Climate." They will then need to develop more costly factories that will look as if they produce less of an effect on this adverse effect, and since american countries are already slowing down, as most of our production jobs are leaving the US, we can therefore spend the same amount of money that the China spends in producing products for consumption. This only works if China believes this crap, and is agreeable to making it harder for their country to develop into a productive and prosperous country.

Now imagine, if England, France, or Germany put the same demands on America in our early years, so that we would essentially be hamstrung and unable to produce new products and innovative ideas that made America one of the best countries to live in. We never would have agreed to that bullshit, so why in hell are we to expect China, North Korea, or any other developing countries to do the same thing? [notwithstanding nuclear proliferation]

Are we as Americans that arrogant that we can make up rules to keep other countries from becoming affluent? We need to rethink our priorities and realize that our hands are being caught in the cookie jar with this climatology crap, and let the worlds producers succeed. If we cannot compete with them, then we need to realize that we need to rethink our methods and go back to the drawing board and we need to stimulate further innovative development and inventions.

Our schools are still very good, but we could use a bit less liberal bias on the "arts schools" in order for our science schools not have to suffer from the unhealthy burdens of their liberal minded influences. After all, our schools are supposed to be producing the people that will either come up with solutions that will keep us competitive or just keep us in the sidelines, gutters, or shadows with the bully tactics, and strong arm behavior we are now seeing with our current administration that appears lock-step in line with Nazi Germany, and we all know how that turned out.

[Son House]

Piltdown Man
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piltdown_Man

In 1923, Franz Weidenreich examined the remains and correctly reported that they consisted of a modern human cranium and an orangutan jaw with filed-down teeth. Weidenreich, being an anatomist, had easily exposed the hoax for what it was.

However, it took thirty years for the scientific community to concede that Weidenreich was correct.

[manc]

would that be the same nut who also thinks he should pollute the drinking water so people cannot have kids?

The same one who thought that was a good idea because it will stop the growth of population.

the sooner these nutjob radicals get out of the white house and power the better.

Surely even the Kos thicko’s cannot defend this guy can they????

[rlmorel]

"...I’d love to see an angry mob of 10,000 storm the capitol and drag their sorry asses out, tar and feather them..."

(My Brooks Brothers inspired line of protest clothing...:)

[rlmorel]

POLITICIAN ASSIFICATION!

ROFLMAFAO!

[SeattleBruce]

“The e-mails do nothing to undermine the very strong scientific consensus ...
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Except to strongly undermine the science *and* the consensus. Ruh Roh...idiots...they are looking despearate and moronic as they try to build back up their house of cards...

[SeattleBruce]

I nominate “POLITICIAN ASSIFICATION” as the new doomsday buzzword; I’m sure there is a link between hot-air, carbon-dioxide, and politicians speaking...
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Nice, and what is the great takeaway from your new found discovery? Politicians will NOT be allowed to speak (or create ASSinine legislation!

[rlmorel]

WILKOW/ RIZZUTO: GE: A CORPORATE SPONSOR
By Andrew Wilkow and Nick Rizzuto
(From the Washington Times)
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For all of the carping liberals did for eight years about corporate cronyism in George W. Bush’s White House, they seem to turn a blind eye to the same behavior in President Obama’s. With plans in place for a major overhaul in the health-care industry, General Electric is positioning itself to become a major beneficiary of these health care reforms.

Recently at the Business and Social Responsibility Conference, General Electric Chief Executive Officer Jeff Immelt referred to America’s current economic crisis as part of a “reset” rather than part of an economic cycle, saying, “People who understand that will prosper in the future, and people who don’t understand that will get left behind.”

In the same address, Mr. Immelt, who is also a member of Mr. Obama’s economic recovery advisory board, added, “The intersection of government and business will be changed, maybe for a generation.” In other words, companies should be prepared to beg for a seat at the government’s table if they plan on remaining lucrative.

Imagine that on the eve of the Iraq war, the CEO of Halliburton had declared that since Sept. 11, 2001, the relationship between the government and corporate interests have become one in the same.

Of course, Mr. Immelt’s rhetoric about corporate responsibility was undercut last year when GE’s once vaunted financial services business, GE Capital, was forced to ask the government for what amounted to a $140 billion government bailout.

Mr. Immelt’s words betray GE’s willingness to partner with the Obama government in order to turn a profit. To this end, GE has appointed Mr. Obama’s former nominee for secretary of health and human services, Tom Daschle, to the board of advisers for Healthymagination, an initiative launched by General Electric in partnership along with Intel, which will invest $6 billion over the next six years on “health care innovation that will help deliver better care to more people at lower cost.”

Mr. Daschle said, “We can only find real solutions in health care when business, government and their partners work together.”

In 2008, Mr. Daschle wrote the book “Critical: What We Can Do About the Health-Care Crisis” in which he explains his radical solutions to the problems in American health care. In the book, Mr. Daschle calls for a British-style Federal Council on health care.

The profitability of GE’s new venture will depend heavily on the nationalization of the health care industry. The standardization and streamlining of health care recordkeeping, something on which Mr. Obama ran in 2008, would require a massive government contract for the technology to achieve such standardization.

Mr. Obama has introduced a plan to computerize all health records within five years. Independent studies from Harvard, Rand Corp. and the Commonwealth Fund have estimated that such a plan could cost at least $75 billion to $100 billion over the next 10 years. Healthymagination is readying just such a technology, claiming that they will seek to “increase the use and capability of electronic medical record (EMR) technology and other information technology.” With Mr. Obama’s ally Mr. Daschle on board, Healthymagination is sure to have more than a leg up on its competition when it comes time to dole out these massive contracts.

Under the cloak of corporate responsibility, General Electric seeks to benefit to the tune of billions from the passage of Mr. Obama’s health care reform. On its corporate Web site, Healthymagination admits it will use every tool at its disposal to achieve its goals, including NBC Universal, the parent company of MSNBC which offers nearly uncritical coverage of Mr. Obama and his policies.

In effect, NBC Universal would become the propaganda arm of the administrations drive for the nationalization of health care, pushing its passage in its print and television properties.

Healthymagination states its target dates for the completion of its various initiatives as 2015, well into a second Obama term. This means GE will have a deep financial interest in Mr. Obama’s re-election; a fact that will no doubt be reflected in its media divisions. It will certainly be interesting to see if the left-wing watchdogs howl, or if they will conclude this is an acceptable level of collusion between the White House and a multinational conglomerate.

• Andrew Wilkow is the host of Sirius/XM Satellite radio’s Wilkow Majority program. Nick Rizzuto is his producer.

[SeattleBruce]

There should be no White House scientists. Science should not be corrupted by politics. If it is, like with this climate change BS, it is not science.
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Right. Only the commies could have dreamed that up..

[MajorThomas]