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Official: Reaction to Japan Bow Left Obama "Speechless"
See BS ^ | 11/23/2009 | Brian Montopoli

Posted on 11/23/2009 1:35:14 PM PST by markomalley

President Obama's bow to Japan's Emperor Akihito in Tokyo earlier this month ignited anger from some conservatives who complained, in the words of blogger Donald Douglass, that the United States "now willingly prostrates itself before the rest of the world."

Now the president is responding – kind of. The Atlantic quotes "a US government official who was on the trip" who says the president was left "speechless" by the controversy.

"Obama's attitude was, this is an elderly gentleman in a country where this kind of greeting is customary," said the official. "It does not seem extraordinary to show this kind of gesture to him."

"The Fox News poll said that 67 percent of Americans thought [the bow] was a good thing for him to have done," the official continued. "When the president heard that some people had complained, I'd characterize his reaction as: The notion that the United States is somehow humbling or humiliating itself by showing respect for a local custom, when it is transparently the most powerful country in the world, leaves me speechless."

As criticism of the president for the bow bubbled up, media outlets noted that anger over what some see as excessive presidential deference to a foreign leader is nothing new. President George W. Bush was criticized for holding the hand of Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah, while Presidents Clinton and Nixon took heat for bows or near-bows to the Japanese emperor. Mr. Obama has also been criticized for genuflecting to Abdullah.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: asiantripfailure; japan; obama; obamabow; obowma
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Hey Barry, if you want to be speechless...good. All the better for all of us.

On the other hand, you can avoid the controversy by just acting like a US President for once.

1 posted on 11/23/2009 1:35:15 PM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Good call!....Stay speechless Obama!


2 posted on 11/23/2009 1:37:08 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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"The Fox News poll said that 67 percent of Americans thought [the bow] was a good thing for him to have done," the official continued."

Really? Sorry, I find that hard to believe.

3 posted on 11/23/2009 1:37:51 PM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: markomalley

4 posted on 11/23/2009 1:38:31 PM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: markomalley

I suppose every other US President, in post WWII, who happened to meet the Emperor and didn’t bow, would be left speechless to understand why any US head of state would do so...


5 posted on 11/23/2009 1:38:35 PM PST by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: markomalley

Obama? Speechless? The teleprompter must be broken.


6 posted on 11/23/2009 1:39:02 PM PST by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: vox_freedom

Nixon bowed.


7 posted on 11/23/2009 1:39:43 PM PST by narses ("These are the days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed except his own.")
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To: markomalley
Hey Barry, if you want to be speechless...good. All the better for all of us.

On the other hand, you can avoid the controversy by just acting like a US President for once.


Beat me to it!

Remain SPEECHLESS, you tard and do U.S. all a favor.

And leave the teleprompter at home too. Then I am sure you will keep your stupid mouth shut.

8 posted on 11/23/2009 1:40:16 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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Isn’t this a change in the official position of the White House about what happened?

I seem to recall that at the time they denied it was in fact a bow at all.

Now it seems he is saying he did bow, (but it should not be a big deal.)


9 posted on 11/23/2009 1:41:07 PM PST by ChronicMA
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To: markomalley
"The Fox News poll said that 67 percent of Americans thought [the bow] was a good thing for him to have done," the official continued

Wait - I thought Fox News was nothing but a bunch of eeevil right-wing wackos to be avoided at all costs by anyone in the Obama Administration??


10 posted on 11/23/2009 1:41:11 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Socialism is funny until somebody loses their paycheck)
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To: markomalley

BS Barry - you didn’t show that much concern for your beer summit professor - the elderly man had to be helped down the steps by the cop he was at odds with while you skipped merrily ahead....


11 posted on 11/23/2009 1:41:13 PM PST by mom4melody
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To: markomalley
"Obama's attitude was, this is an elderly gentleman in a country where this kind of greeting is customary,"

Oh, well that's better then. The diplomatic position is now that the Emperor, head of state of one our staunchest allies, is just a kindly old uncle who we treat with respect because of his age. Hell, he probably didn't even know who was bowing to him. They took him back to the home right after the bow.

Can anyone in this administration do the right thing, or after screwing up, at least give a non-insulting answer?

We are lost. Berlin went to his pinhead.

12 posted on 11/23/2009 1:41:27 PM PST by CaptRon
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To: markomalley

Holding hands in Saudi Arabia is a sign of friendship and equality, not subservience.


13 posted on 11/23/2009 1:41:54 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Hodar

I thought the same - 67% did NOT think it was a good thing????


14 posted on 11/23/2009 1:42:21 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: swain_forkbeard

Heheheh

Speechless is a good thing. Most of us wished he would shut the hell up. I personally cant even stand the sound of his voice, anymore.


15 posted on 11/23/2009 1:42:34 PM PST by New Yawk Minute
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To: narses
Nixon bowed.

Well all righty then, I guess okay after all, yeesh

16 posted on 11/23/2009 1:42:47 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Oath keepers + The NRA = FReeRepublic (.com baby))
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To: Hodar

17 posted on 11/23/2009 1:43:10 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: markomalley

If he had wanted to bow, he should have asked the protocol officers how to do it properly. That is what the protocol officers are FOR.

What he did was gauche, condescending and made him look like a stupid rube.


18 posted on 11/23/2009 1:43:36 PM PST by Ronin (Better an avowed enemy in front of me than a potential traitor beside me. NO RINOS!)
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To: markomalley

The Kenyan Klod could be rendered speechless simply by umplugging the teleprompter.


19 posted on 11/23/2009 1:44:06 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: markomalley

What a bleepin’ asshat,,,,,,,,,God save us from this idiot.


20 posted on 11/23/2009 1:44:58 PM PST by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: markomalley

Ignorance...or in Obama’s case, Narcissism, is bliss.


21 posted on 11/23/2009 1:45:05 PM PST by Lucky9teen (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: markomalley

speechless? We should only be so lucky.


22 posted on 11/23/2009 1:45:11 PM PST by RAR
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To: markomalley
The back story on the bow seen 'round the world was that OBOWzo forgot to insert in contacts that morning and was having trouble reading the complicated text on his SHOE teleprompter. The text was "Good morning, oh exalted one, from the miserable and selfish morons who populate the United States -- all 57 of them. We humbly beg your forgiveness for the horrific atom bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki."

Actually, I don't believe the circumstances leading up to the bow. Inasmuch as OBOWzo suffers from Carville Syndrome, he spends nearly every day in the incredibly uncomfortable position shown and, as a result, shoves his contacts up his... Oh, never mind.

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23 posted on 11/23/2009 1:46:06 PM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: markomalley
He could have just done a polite nod of the head and it would have been sufficient by Japanese standards.

Barry did a friggin 90° Bend...most Japanese don't ever go past 45°!!

24 posted on 11/23/2009 1:46:29 PM PST by NMEwithin
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To: New Yawk Minute

I never could..ugh. The condescension and elite mannerisms, esp when pronouncing his “s”’s...

I loathe this man more, every time he opens his mouth.


25 posted on 11/23/2009 1:47:25 PM PST by Lucky9teen (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: markomalley

“... in a country where this kind of greeting is customary,... .”

It is customary to bow slightly but not at a 90 degree angle.


26 posted on 11/23/2009 1:47:47 PM PST by hoe_cake (A member of the Society of the Descendants of the Signers of the Constitution.)
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To: markomalley

It’s very American to believe that a bow is just a casual way of showing friendliness/respect and doesn’t mean much. True.

But the fact that the President doesn’t consider what his actions mean in other countries, just assumes his casual American customs are OK everwhere, or didn’t have anyone advising him otherwise - is all rather scary. Kind of makes Obama the “ugly American” doesn’t it?


27 posted on 11/23/2009 1:48:04 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Hodar
Really? Sorry, I find that hard to believe.

Here is the Fox News poll in question.

So the question wasn't: was Obama's bow OK. It was if it was "appropriate for him to bow to a foreign leader if that is the country's custom."

Minor difference.

28 posted on 11/23/2009 1:48:41 PM PST by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Hodar

That’s because it’s completely imaginary.

He’s not some private citizen honoring another private citizen. Maybe he’s just too damn STUPID to realize that as President, it was inappropriate. That’s pretty stupid though.


29 posted on 11/23/2009 1:49:50 PM PST by Shimmer1 (When life hands you lemons, ask for tequila and salt)
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To: Hodar
I can remember the end of the war with Japan, and I do remember Tojo being hung and a hood put over his head. Tojo was considered the leader of the Japanese Military.
Hirohito was claiming to be a “god”, not a warrior.

So after the war, Hirohito gave up his position as a “god”, so therefore he is nothing now.

So Obama is just foolish.

The true God, our God, said he was looking for men, who did
NOT bow to other “gods”. He is our God, a jealous God, faithful and true.

30 posted on 11/23/2009 1:50:58 PM PST by tessalu (Obama should not ever fool us again.)
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To: narses

I’ve seen the picture. Both men are either bowing to each other at the same time, eye to eye and hands properly at sides or they are leaning toward each other in order to hear the other speak. Either way, neither looks subservient to the other.


31 posted on 11/23/2009 1:52:12 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: markomalley

And besides, am I the only one who remembers the controversy that lasted for days — on every major news channel — when Reagan’s chief protocol officer curtsied to Prince Charles during a visit in 1981?

The pompous media snots went on and on about that for weeks, moaning that this woman had callously damaged the dignity of the Republic and should be tarred and feathered. And this was a MINOR State Department official.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1347&dat=19810506&id=xeISAAAAIBAJ&sjid=PfsDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6900,1807101

Yet when Obama ignores protocol, does it badly, and looks like an idiot - Hey, no problem!


32 posted on 11/23/2009 1:52:50 PM PST by Ronin (Better an avowed enemy in front of me than a potential traitor beside me. NO RINOS!)
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To: hoe_cake

“It is customary to bow slightly but not at a 90 degree angle.”.....

I’d call Obozo’s bow a pant splitter.....


33 posted on 11/23/2009 1:53:03 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: narses

If you can’t tell the difference between the “greeting” bow of Nixon and the “humble” bow of Obama, then there is no hope for you understanding the Japanese culture at all.


34 posted on 11/23/2009 1:53:05 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Lucky9teen

Obama’s mannerisms are low-brow.


35 posted on 11/23/2009 1:55:27 PM PST by hoe_cake (A member of the Society of the Descendants of the Signers of the Constitution.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

“I’d call Obozo’s bow a pant splitter.....”

I’d call it “ass kissing.”


36 posted on 11/23/2009 1:56:31 PM PST by hoe_cake (A member of the Society of the Descendants of the Signers of the Constitution.)
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To: narses

Nixon bowed to Mao Tse-Tung (almost worse)... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI0GMR2w59Y

And comparing the two bows (not saying they both aren’t bad) Obama bent full on at the waist. Nixon just bent forward a bit. Still a bow, but Obama trying to explain it away, like it’s a nice gesture for their “custom” is such BS. At least Nixons looked more like a head nod, instead of a full on, subservient bow, IMO.

If it was a nice “equal” gesture is customary, BOTH people bow to each other. And I didn’t see the emporer bowing or even moving for that matter.

Obama is a putz. He’s the worst, pansy a$$ president America has ever seen, IMO.


37 posted on 11/23/2009 1:56:49 PM PST by Lucky9teen (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: markomalley

Someone thought it would be another great photo-op.

I guess they thought wrong, he made sure that everyone had evidence of what an a-hole he really is in an actual picture that says it all.


38 posted on 11/23/2009 1:57:27 PM PST by chiefqc
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To: markomalley

So arrogant he didn’t see the need for briefing or preparation or history or anything.


39 posted on 11/23/2009 1:57:43 PM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Yawn.


40 posted on 11/23/2009 1:58:01 PM PST by narses ("These are the days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed except his own.")
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To: markomalley
I guess the school yard bullies just mocked his ears and gave him swirlies and never got around to flicking his nose when told to look at that thing on the ground in front of him!
41 posted on 11/23/2009 1:58:40 PM PST by Pharmer (Palin in 2012! We are so screwed! Go Flyers!!!!)
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To: narses

Thus, you have no answer to that. Obama’s bow was a submissive bow. The Nixon bow was nothing of the kind. You know it.


42 posted on 11/23/2009 1:59:15 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: markomalley

A respectful head nod would have been sufficient Mr. President but not a bow like you did before the other guy. Also, don’t you have protocol showing you the way as other Presidents have had or...do you just like to do things your own way and then make a spectacle of yourself????


43 posted on 11/23/2009 2:00:41 PM PST by cubreporter (.)
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To: markomalley

A respectful head nod would have been sufficient Mr. President but not a bow like you did before the other guy. Also, don’t you have protocol showing you the way as other Presidents have had or...do you just like to do things your own way and then make a spectacle of yourself????


44 posted on 11/23/2009 2:01:52 PM PST by cubreporter (.)
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To: markomalley

Is he and his protocol chief that clueless?


45 posted on 11/23/2009 2:03:07 PM PST by LiteKeeper (When do the impeachment proceedings begin?)
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To: markomalley

In Japanese terms, this was the kind of bow of a mentally defective ditch-digger would make before a Shogun.


46 posted on 11/23/2009 2:03:08 PM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: hoe_cake

Or in this instance...

Low bow? lol ;)


47 posted on 11/23/2009 2:03:58 PM PST by Lucky9teen (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: markomalley

He showed no respect to the College Professor when he walked down the steps of the White House and let the policeman “who acted stupidly” help the elderly Professor.


48 posted on 11/23/2009 2:05:16 PM PST by unkus
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To: markomalley
Obama's attitude was, this is an elderly gentleman in a country where this kind of greeting is customary

It is not customary in Japan to bow so deep -- unless you are a street-sweeper.

49 posted on 11/23/2009 2:06:37 PM PST by expatpat
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To: markomalley
You people just don't get it.

Anything Obama does is good.

He just instinctively knows the correct thing to do, at all times and under all circumstances.

He's just better than you. Get used to it.

50 posted on 11/23/2009 2:08:17 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Ask not what the Kennedys can do for you, but what you can do for the Kennedys.)
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