Posted on 11/13/2009 3:55:20 PM PST by markomalley
Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) told CNSNews.com that the constitutional authority for Congress to require individuals to purchase health insurance is the same that allowed for Medicaid and Medicare, and for states to require drivers licenses. He also said critics who suggest the health care bill is unconstitutional are making a spurious argument.
The health care bills in both the Senate and the House mandate that every American have health insurance. Back in September at a town hall meeting, Warner had also said there is no place in the Constitution that specifically says health care or education, but we have made those choices as a country over the years.
On Tuesday on Capitol Hill, CNSNews.com asked Warner, Does the Constitution give Congress the authority to mandate whether individuals should purchase health insurance, to mandate that they have to purchase health insurance?
Warner said: The United States Congress passed laws regarding Medicare and Medicaid that became de facto mandatory programs. States all the time require people to have drivers licenses. I think that this is a bit of a spurious argument thats being made by some folks.
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1) A person is not forced to sign up for Medicare or Medicaid under threat of imprisonment. A person will be forced to sign onto Obamacare (or pay the tax penalty in the law) or face stiff fines and/or prison.
2) There is no FEDERAL requirement for a drivers license. There are also no STATE requirements for drivers licenses. A license signifies your permission to perform a task. Just as a lack of a medical license means you may not practice medicine and a lack of a barber license means you don't cut hair. If you don't want a license, you won't drive, practice medicine, or cut hair. There is NO analogy for mandated health care.
And I thought Virginians were smarter than that (to elect such a dolt).
“States all the time require people to have drivers licenses. I think that this is a bit of a spurious argument thats being made by some folks.
My gaaawwwwddd, does this idiot even know how to tie his own shoes?
That said, he appears to have forgotten about the "UNINSURED MOTORIST FEE" which is paid by folks without auto insurance. It pays for their accidents.
Hey, people without auto insurance~! Yup, we got a lot of them, and people who don't drive cars run bare-assed nekkid all over the state without auto insurance!
They're getting away with pedestrianism!
Now that Mark is our Senator I have found that its necessary to pray an awful lot more than would otherwise be needed.
Mark Warner= Moron.
The comparison of health insurance to car insurance is a red herring.
Car insurance is required to protect the other guy
i.e. who you might crash into,
or who you have the car financed through.
Car insurance does not allow for pre-existing conditions.
Car insurance rates are based on the value of the vehicle,
the driving history of the insured,
the zip code where you live, and how much driving you do.
The analogy of trying to compare health insurance to car insurance is fatally flawed.
Actually I think it isn’t much of a stretch to question the constitutionality of drivers licesnses in the first place.
That said, a license isn’t required if you don’t drive.
Inquiring minds want to know. Specifically, they want to know when we throw all of these self-aggrandizing poseurs out of office, preferably on their well-larded asses.
Yes indeed.
The Amish are not required to get licenses to drive cars or face imprisonment.
Maybe they are required to get horse and buggy licenses to use the state built roads...
Anybody know?
Are the Christian Scientists who don’t believe in doctors going to be required to get non-faith based health care insurance or go to prison?
“My gaaawwwwddd, does this idiot even know how to tie his own shoes?”
don’t know, but he does know how to keep his hair big and puffy...
If there was no constitutional issue then congress should have passed a federal law to require seat belts to be worn rather than come up with a elaborate system of making the states do it by withholding funds.
...told CNSNews.com that the constitutional authority for Congress to require individuals to purchase health insurance is the same that allowed for Medicaid and Medicare, and for states to require driver's licenses. He also said critics who suggest the health care bill is unconstitutional are making a "spurious argument."Refresh my memory -- how'd the governor's race go in Virginia? :')
2008 Virginia United States Senate Election:
Party - - - - - - Candidate - - - - Votes - - - - - - - %
Democratic - Mark Warner - - 2,187,613 - - 65%
Republican - Jim Gilmore - - - 1,174,425 - - 34%
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Looks like we are stuck with this turd until 2012...
Here’s your “moderate” you were convinced you were voting for for US Senate Virginia, a man who hiked your taxes when he was governor. What the hell made you think this putz was a moderate? Jim Gilmore who ran against this phony for Senate was a much better governor. Anyway, enjoy losing your healthcare because of this horsefaced, horse-toothed loser you were convinced by the Washington Post was a “moderate.”
Sorry Warner. Only the brain dead idiots who voted for obama are going to believe your crap.
This stupid MF ought to be challenged to a duel or tarred and feathered as penalty for violating his oath to defend the Constitution.
Requiring me to have insurance is a violation of this:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated,
What is reasonable about having my person seized because I refuse to purchase health insurance?
Medical insurance is required to cover the other guys problems;
i.e. who you might give a disease to;
or who you have the plan financed through;
Medical insurance now allows for preexisting conditions;
Medical insurance rates are based on the value of the person based on government criteria;
the medical history of the insured;
the zip code where you live, and how much medical resources you consume.
In the small print see section 12883 par. 252a1c where it says: if a person is over 65 and has medical problems, they are not covered for any procedure over $500.00, or a lifetime total expense of $550.00. Total non-reimburseable benefits are limited to one free pain pill, plus the ‘end of life’ pill is free.
None of their goddammed business.
If this is upheld by the SCOTUS, all hell will break loose.
Here in Texas, Driver’s licenses are NOT required. You need them ONLY if you operate a vehicle on a PUBLIC ROAD! What a dumb jerk the “Senator” is!
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