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CDC: 3,900 Americans Dead From H1N1 in Six Months
Foxnews.com ^ | 12 NOV 2009 | Reuters

Posted on 11/12/2009 11:22:06 AM PST by Tulsa Ramjet

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To: MaxMax

The globalist elite want so much POWER.


161 posted on 11/12/2009 10:13:51 PM PST by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet; energylover; OldDeckHand; Scythian; Jenny Hatch; dynachrome; ventanax5; khnyny; ...
This is NOT a pandemic or emergency by any stretch of the imagination. South America had a MUCH milder flu season, and their primary strain this year was the H1N1.


But there is a common denominator to those who are dying, which is largely patients with pre-existing neurological problems.

The problem is insufficient SATURATED FAT.

The body needs a great deal of saturated fat for healthy tissues, especially the brain, spinal cord, and nerves.

BUT the lungs ALSO need saturated fat (when it can get it) to completely thin-coat all breathing surfaces -called lung surfactant. The toxic polyunsaturated vegetable oils and margarines on the market do not make a good replacement, and they go rancid (oxidize) quickly in the body. It is these surfaces of the lungs that get inflamed by H1N1, causing the deaths.

SEVEN REASONS TO EAT MORE SATURATED FAT
Reason #4: Healthy Lungs

A better way to cure the H1N1 'coughing flu' than Tamiflu could be 7 days of mega-doses of Vitamin D3 [per executive answer #3]

162 posted on 11/12/2009 11:29:13 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Chicago politics = corrupted capitalism = takeover by COMMUNity-ISM)
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...
Ping... (Thanks, OB1kNOb!)



Also, keep up with other H1N1 update stories on this thread: H1N1 flu victim collapsed on way to hospital [Latest H1N1 updates downthread] thanks to DvdMom and others.

163 posted on 11/13/2009 12:03:12 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: DvdMom

but there was a swine flu break out in the 70’s. I remember more people died from the shot than from the swine flu. Here is a medical commercialhttp://www.tmz.com/2009/04/29/swine-

flu-the-70s-edition/http://www.capitalcentury.com/1976.html from that time.


164 posted on 11/13/2009 1:11:23 AM PST by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: pburgh01

who can afford 200.00 medicine? Remember people have lost their jobs. And some people like me can’t take flu shots and most meds.


165 posted on 11/13/2009 1:13:16 AM PST by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: Brown Deer

I don’t want to put you two off track although I do tend to think God’s will in all things. We will all die, we just don’t know when and how and that does drive some people crazy.Anyway I have been looking for that shedding of innocent blood thing in scripture and kept thinking it was in rev.anyway thanks!


166 posted on 11/13/2009 1:24:54 AM PST by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: Future Useless Eater

Thanks.

There’s a whole lotta FUD here. What’s needed is a breakdown of how H1N1 infection is being calculated. How many people are being treated for H1N1. How many people can be reasonably believed to have had H1N1 without being treated. What are the tests for H1N1 and how accurate are the tests.

What is the efficacy of the flu shots/mist, both seasonal and H1N1, would also be nice to know.


167 posted on 11/13/2009 4:59:30 AM PST by decimon
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To: businessprofessor

I think this H1N1 flu is like playing Russian Roulette .

You don’t know how it will effect you . Most people who do die from H1N1 die from pneumonia complications .

I read many personal reports from nurses and others where Zirthomax worked the best with the swine flu and I came across this study below :

Zithromax Also known as azithromycin works best for the h1n1/swine flu according to this study

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090108171636.htm

More Effective Treatment For Pneumonia Following Influenza Found, Study Shows
ScienceDaily (Jan. 10, 2009) — Scientists at St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital have demonstrated a more effective treatment for bacterial pneumonia following influenza. They found that the antibiotics clindamycin and azithromycin, which kill bacteria by inhibiting their protein synthesis, are more effective than a standard first-line treatment with the “beta-lactam” antibiotic ampicillin, which causes the bacteria to lyse, or burst.


The finding is important because pneumonia, rather than the influenza itself, is a principal cause of death from influenza in children and the elderly. During pandemics—such as the one that may arise from avian influenza—up to 95 percent of influenza deaths are due to pneumonia. A bioterrorism attack using the influenza virus would likely result in the same high percentage of pneumonia deaths, according to the researchers.

The group, led by Jonathan McCullers, M.D., associate member of the St. Jude Infectious Diseases department, expect the new findings, currently demonstrated in mice, to be incorporated into standard clinical practice guidelines during the next few years.

McCullers and his colleagues published their findings in the advanced, online issue of the Journal of Infectious Diseases. The researchers based the new treatment on growing evidence that beta-lactams are relatively ineffective against secondary pneumonia because the drugs exacerbate inflammation caused by influenza.

“With severe secondary pneumonia, it has seemed that physicians do almost everything they can, and it doesn’t work,” McCullers said. “People still die despite treatment with antibiotics that can kill the bacteria. Our research is showing that the intense inflammatory response that is already there from the virus is amplified by the bacterial infection. And, treatment with beta-lactams releases bacterial components into the bloodstream that the immune system recognizes, triggering an inflammatory burst that can be deadly.

“Traditional first-line therapy has been based on the belief that the bacteria are bad, so we have to get rid of them as quickly as possible,” McCullers said. “But what we are finding is that maybe it is the inflammation we need to worry about first, and the bacteria second. Protein synthesis inhibitors shut down the bacterial protein-making factory, and they can avoid the inflammatory burst by killing them over days instead of quickly lysing them.”

In their experiments, the St. Jude researchers infected mice with a mild form of influenza that restricted itself to the lungs. After a week, the scientists infected the mice with pneumonia bacteria. This sequence mimics how humans with influenza would contract secondary pneumonia.

The researchers treated groups of the doubly infected mice with ampicillin, clindamycin, combined clindamycin and ampicillin, or azithromycin. They found that 56 percent of the mice survived with ampicillin treatment, 82 percent survived with clindamycin, 80 percent with clindamycin and ampicillin, and 92 percent with azithromycin. Significantly, while clindamycin and azithromycin both inhibit protein synthesis, azithromycin also has anti-inflammatory properties.

Ampicillin aggravated inflammation compared to clindamycin, the researchers confirmed in test tube studies. The investigators also found evidence of increased inflammation in lung cells of ampicillin-treated animals.

According to McCullers, lung tissue studies of ampicillin-treated animals also revealed the antibiotic’s deleterious effects.

“We saw in those animals that, even though we were clearing their lungs of bacteria, the lungs looked just like those of animals in which the bacteria were continuing to multiply,” McCullers said. “The damage process was continuing.”

McCullers said he would like the new findings to influence treatment guidelines immediately for pneumonia secondary to influenza.

“The current guidelines still adhere to the theory that beta-lactams are the only drugs of choice, because it is necessary to kill the bacteria as fast as possible,” he said. “However, our findings represent the first data showing that inflammation is important, and that alternative therapies such as protein synthesis inhibitors should be considered and incorporated into revised guidelines.”

More broadly, McCullers said, the new findings support a growing body of evidence that treating severe pneumonia in general should take into account the inflammatory response and not just the rapid demise of bacteria.

Other authors of this paper include Åsa Karlström and Kelli Boyd (St. Jude); and B. Keith English (Le Bonheur Children’s Medical Center). This research was supported in part by the U.S. Public Health Service and ALSAC.


168 posted on 11/13/2009 5:42:15 AM PST by DvdMom (Freeper Smokin' Joe does the freeper Avian / H1N1 Ping List)
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To: DvdMom
I think that MOST people who die from the flu are actually dying from pneumonia, that includes ALL flu.
169 posted on 11/13/2009 5:49:01 AM PST by Ditter
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To: MacMattico

I’m sorry about your friend Tracy . That is so sad . Thanks , for sharing your personal report .


170 posted on 11/13/2009 6:11:29 AM PST by DvdMom (Freeper Smokin' Joe does the freeper Avian / H1N1 Ping List)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

“CDC: 3,900 Americans Dead From H1N1 in Six Months”

That few?


171 posted on 11/13/2009 6:38:29 AM PST by Grunthor (I am a jerk. Proceed with that in mind.)
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To: Future Useless Eater

If we get the same Ukraine strain plague here it will be a HUGE area of concern ....

The below doctor got the swine flu twice ...

Some people say H1N1 may have already mutated which is why there are more and more reports of people getting the swine flu twice .

I also have an interesting link to a Vitamin D3 freeper post at the bottom of this thread.

http://dailymail.com/News/200911041062
Thursday November 5, 2009

Area doctor says she tested positive for H1N1 twice

by Zack Harold
Daily Mail staff

CROSS LANES, W.Va.—A Cross Lanes pediatrician says she came down with swine flu twice in two months, and she’s among the medical professionals who are puzzled by the occurrence.

Dr. Debra Parsons, a pediatrician at Kid Care West in Cross Lanes, said both she and her son came down with identical flu-like symptoms in August.
Figuring they had the same disease, Parsons swabbed herself and sent the specimen off to a lab. She tested positive for Influenza A, which includes several strains of the flu.

Health officials say that in this region more than 99 percent of people who have been testing positive for Influenza A are later confirmed to have swine flu.
Parsons said that was the case with her family; a more specific follow-up “sub-typing” test at the state lab confirmed she had H1N1.

Parsons and her son recovered from the symptoms but in October they struck again and were much worse, she said. Both had body aches, fever, chills, wheezing, and shortness of breath.

This time Parsons swabbed both herself and her son, and both tests came back positive for Influenza A. She said she pushed for further testing to determine the strain, and the lab ran an immunofluorescence test on the specimens. They again tested positive for H1N1, she said.

Parsons’ second swab was sent to the state lab Wednesday for even further testing and results should be returned in a couple of days or sent to the Centers for Disease Control for follow-up tests, she said.

This vitamin D3 link thread was very interesting .

This thread is pertinent to the discussion in light of the current fears of flu.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1929828/posts


172 posted on 11/13/2009 6:40:07 AM PST by DvdMom (Freeper Smokin' Joe does the freeper Avian / H1N1 Ping List)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

Wasn’t it Bush’s fault last year when we had a “normal” flu season? Haven’t seen any blame attributed this year.


173 posted on 11/13/2009 6:40:56 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: DvdMom

I’m going to get Carpal Tunnel scrolling through your enormous posts so I can read something pertinent!


174 posted on 11/13/2009 6:45:04 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: DvdMom
"If the deaths grow & grow would you be concerned ?"

So I should worry about "if's" now? Please. The cdc states "About 36,000 Americans die on average per year from the complications of flu."

3900 people dying from piggy flu in 6 months is no cause for concern, being that 18000 people die from the regular flu, 6 months, of an average year.

If you want to panic, go ahead. Just don't expect everyone else to go along for the ride.

175 posted on 11/13/2009 6:52:11 AM PST by NoGrayZone (Where's The Birth Certificate)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

There was an interesting article I read yesterday about the French CDC and how they expected a much worse epidemic and h;ow the hanta viruses and RSV viuses might have an impact on H1N1

Anyone have the link?


176 posted on 11/13/2009 7:12:24 AM PST by Chickensoup (SHRUGGING shrugging SHRUGGING shrugging SHRUGGING shrugging SHRUGGING)
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To: NoGrayZone

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/5693975/Swine-flu-lab-accident-may-have-caused-pandemic.html

Scientists believe that the H1N1 form of influenza “A” might not be circulating among humans had it not been for a leak, possibly somewhere in Asia or the Soviet Union, around 1977.

Some scientists believe that H1N1 is lab created .

If that statement is true , then that would make sense why healthy people are dead from H1N1 .

The seasonal flu usually kills those over 85.

I’m not causing a panic by posting news articles .

As for the 36,000 flu deaths number that number which is spouted like it’s the Bible comes from one man . The number comes from a 2003 study led by William W. Thompson. The number doesn’t come from any actual death certificates . It was an estimate which has never been proven but has been repeated so much that people believe it is true.

However, according to the CDC’s own data, they can only confirm an average of 1,263 deaths due to influenza per year from 1979 through 2006.

http://www.slate.com/id/2218367/pagenum/all/

If we get hit with the plague that is occuring in Ukraine it will be an area of concern .

1,253,558 Influenza/ARI

65.615 Hospitalizations

The release of the sequences from Ukraine is long overdue.

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/11120902/Ukraine_239.html


177 posted on 11/13/2009 7:21:09 AM PST by DvdMom (Freeper Smokin' Joe does the freeper Avian / H1N1 Ping List)
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To: NoGrayZone

Most people think ZERO is a Christian because it has been stated and repeated so much .

That doesn’t mean it is true ......


178 posted on 11/13/2009 7:27:27 AM PST by DvdMom (Freeper Smokin' Joe does the freeper Avian / H1N1 Ping List)
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To: red irish

Have you seen this ?

Gardasil Researcher Drops A Bombshell

http://thebulletin.us/articles/2009/10/25/top_stories/doc4ae4b76d07e16766677720.txt#


179 posted on 11/13/2009 7:30:49 AM PST by DvdMom (Freeper Smokin' Joe does the freeper Avian / H1N1 Ping List)
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To: DvdMom
"Most people think ZERO is a Christian because it has been stated and repeated so much. That doesn’t mean it is true ......

Ditto on your pig flu hysteria.

180 posted on 11/13/2009 7:31:12 AM PST by NoGrayZone (Where's The Birth Certificate)
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