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Homeward Bound (H-1B Visas/ Indians)
WSJ ^ | Nov. 9, 2009 | MONA SARIKA

Posted on 11/11/2009 12:38:12 PM PST by AuntB

Sudhir Kapoor, 25, got the call from his employer late last year. It was bad news: The economic downturn meant the technology company had to let him go.

Laxmi Aiyar, who is returning to India after she was laid off by her company, says, "It is Indian talents who made America rich and prosperous. Now, they are throwing us out like a can of Pepsi."

Since nearly 40 percent of all H-1B visa holders are from India , the mounting layoffs are hitting Indian professionals particularly hard.

....Lives have been disrupted, and some said they were under tremendous stress to pay back mortgage loans for buying houses and cars. Many had children born on U.S. soil and wonder how their children will adjust to Indian schools and a different way of life.

H-1s have been reluctant to publicize their plight, for two reasons: They fear that most Americans are unsympathetic to their predicament, and many do not want their family and friends in India to know that their American dream didn't quite work out.

If someone has worked abroad for more than seven years, they are often found unfit to work in "resurgent India ." And managers have to tread carefully between paying them more than "locals."

"What America 's basically saying is, 'We've educated you, we've trained you, we've taught you all about our markets,'" says Vivek Wadhwa, a successful Indian-born tech entrepreneur turned Duke University professor. "'Now you have to get the hell out of here. "

"Our generation has benefited because America has welcomed us and we have learned so much here," said Himanshu Khare, a software professional in Boston on a H1B visa, but thinking of going back to India.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; h1b; immigrantlist; immigration; india; jobs; ungratefulaliens; visas
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To: AuntB
"It is Indian talents who made America rich and prosperous helped drive American technology compensation down. Now, they are throwing us out like a can of Pepsi the American workers we replaced for less pay."

There, fixed it.

Cry me a river.

21 posted on 11/11/2009 12:57:32 PM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: AuntB
H-1s have been reluctant to publicize their plight, for two reasons: They fear that most Americans are unsympathetic to their predicament, and many do not want their family and friends in India to know that their American dream didn't quite work out.

This is a bogus claim. They do not publicize their "plight" because white collar workers typically accept their situation no matter what. They do not see it as a "plight." They do not unionize but take the good times with the bad. I'll bet that most quotes in this article were made up by the journalist who then proceeded to put these words in the mouths of her subjects.

I have heard that people who go back to India from the US are in high demand since their work quality is better than the local work quality (having been exposed to the US). They command salaries comparable to what they get in the US. So that part about them being unemployable in "resurgent India" is a lie.

I was forwarded an email a couple of years back about an effort by some Communists in India to unionize computer engineers. The attempt failed with engineers deriding the effort.

22 posted on 11/11/2009 1:02:23 PM PST by JimWayne
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To: AuntB
They're still coming in at the rate of 140,000 per month for all work visa types, or 1.68 million per year. Somewhere between 16 million and 20 million visa workers over the past dozen years, displacing American citizen workers. And the vast majority never leave the US.

For every one tech job created in the past dozen years, foreign visa workers have taken two to 2.5 jobs. American citizens are being slaughtered on the installment plan, inch-by-inch genocide.

Not a single one of these foreign workers were ever needed. They were brought in to destroy the middle class, and it is working.

23 posted on 11/11/2009 1:02:30 PM PST by meadsjn
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To: Drew68

Go back to DU - DU dummy.


24 posted on 11/11/2009 1:02:43 PM PST by Frantzie (Judge David Carter - democrat & dishonorable Marine like John Murtha.)
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To: hoosier hick

Ping for later


25 posted on 11/11/2009 1:02:52 PM PST by wyowolf ("we were the winners , cause we didn't know we could fail.")
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To: AuntB

Baloney, Salami, Pastrimi, Curry......In Information Technology, I’ve had to Tech. train the Indians and I could have just as stood behind an American and tech them what they needed to know to do the Job.

There were/are some very valuable extra intelligent Indians in Computers via H1-B, but they would be the small Minority.

Somehow, if you talk funny, Americans think your IQ is way up there......unless you’re Sarah Palin.


26 posted on 11/11/2009 1:03:09 PM PST by 4Speed
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To: AuntB
"What America 's basically saying is, 'We've educated you, we've trained you, we've taught you all about our markets,'" ... "'Now you have to get the hell out of here. "

He forgot "kept American salaries low and took jobs from American technical workers". What more do these guys want?

It looks like the 0bama Depression has at least one silver lining.

27 posted on 11/11/2009 1:03:28 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Pork Eating Crusader - Pass the bacon! FUBO!)
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To: Drew68

“American students just aren’t stepping up to the plate.”

I see two major reasons for that:

1) Being a “nerd” hasn’t been “cool” since the early 60s.

2) Many younger folk have heard that the technology fields are vulnerable to outsourcing and (you guessed it) the H1-B program. Plus, as a result of those two things, salaries are anemic for the effort expended.

What goes around, comes around. TANSTAAFL.


28 posted on 11/11/2009 1:04:26 PM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: AuntB
'We've educated you, we've trained you, we've taught you all about our markets,'"

Right here should have been where you said, "Thank you." Take that knowledge and improve your own country.

29 posted on 11/11/2009 1:05:31 PM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: AuntB

“It is Indian talents who made America rich and prosperous. Now, they are throwing us out like a can of Pepsi.”


You know, there’s no blame to anyone for trying to better their lives by hard work. The young lady is presumptuous and arrogant, but it doesn’t matter. As you say, don’t let the door hit...

What does matter are the corporation heads, immigration lawyers and members of Congress who seek to increase corporate profit at the expense of American workers, while continually crying “worker shortage,” and producing falsified data that there is one.

My husband’s salary has been stagnant for ten years because of H1-Bs.

For myself, I went into nursing to help the family finances just in time to hit the recession. I keep tabs with horrified fascination on the Emergency Nurse Supply Relief Act, introduced by Rep. Wexler of Florida, to lift the retrogression on nursing visas and increase the EB-3s. Dear Mr. Wexler, there is no nursing shortage. American nurses especially new grads cannot find jobs.

Fortunuately the bill seems stalled in committee but when/if the monster health care bill is passed and hospitals and nursing homes are mandated to cut costs...Fillipina, Chinese, Indian, Haitian, Nigerian nurses happy to be here and work for peanuts.


30 posted on 11/11/2009 1:05:39 PM PST by heartwood
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To: AuntB

So what are Americans? Yesterday’s trash?

We should let you stay because you want to be Coke can instead?

You have plenty of skills. Go home to India and make your country rich.

Don’t think we aren’t grateful for your contributions, we are and thank you very much. But, at the end of the day the ledger sheet just doesn’t make your continued employment possible.

Also, your stay was contingent upon your employment and sadly, that’s life.

Geeze, I would think you would want to go home to be with family and friends.

Again, thank you for all you’ve done and We’ll leave the light on.


31 posted on 11/11/2009 1:06:02 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: 2banana
I know people from India are very smart( I watch Jeopardy too!) and I thank them and their fellow brainiacs from China,Pakistan,Israel,Russia,Germany,Japan, etc for their contributions to America and the world...

but honey,we set the table for your abundance and success.....we made it possible to have an America.....

good time to say thanks to our veterans once again...

32 posted on 11/11/2009 1:06:17 PM PST by cherry
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To: AuntB
It is Indian talents who made America rich and prosperous.

Like when Rajee and Patel taught the pilgrims how to plant corn and smoke tobacco? No, wait, those were the other Indians.

33 posted on 11/11/2009 1:06:21 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Obamalaise - the new mood for America.)
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To: AuntB

If she has so many irreplacable skills that have been such a benefit to this country, skills that no American has, why doesn’t she make use of them in India to benefit her own people? And excuse me, but it was American prosperity and advantages that brought her here in the first place. She probably was educated here under some scholarship that American taxpayers funded. She probably got her job here through affirmative action diversity quotas. She probably blocked an American who applied for the job that she got.

Tough cookies, lady.


34 posted on 11/11/2009 1:07:12 PM PST by WestSylvanian
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To: heartwood

Oh, and EB-3s unlike H1-Bs are permanent residents.


35 posted on 11/11/2009 1:08:27 PM PST by heartwood
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To: AuntB
It is high time that ALL H-1B visa holders are sent packing. With reported 10.2 pct (Way higher actual) unemployment, you can not tell me there are no Americans that can the jobs held by foreign nationals and ILEAGALS
36 posted on 11/11/2009 1:10:16 PM PST by pietraynor (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. Ronald Reagan)
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To: AuntB

H1B is a freaking scam, it always has been. H1B workers are to professionals what illegal aliens are for non-professionals, nothing more.

Anyone telling you otherwise is lying out their ass.


37 posted on 11/11/2009 1:10:16 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: AuntB
>>"It is Indian talents who made America rich and prosperous.

BullShyte.

How many of your arrogant countrymen Empowered companies like Enron and Ameriquest with the technology used to originate, package, secutitize, and launch their poisoned work-product into the global financial infrastructure?




It is incumbent upon the honorable craftsman
to be aware of whether or not his services are being used
as a means to accomplish evil ends -
and to ACT accordingly.

38 posted on 11/11/2009 1:10:23 PM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: PreciousLiberty

Regardless of the reason, what he says is indeed the case.

Multinationals such as MS deliberately cast a wide
net - IQ and ability trump nationality, and the Asians
are just plain more willing/able to defer gratification
and go for the postgrad degree.


39 posted on 11/11/2009 1:13:17 PM PST by rahbert
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To: AuntB

by the time Obama is done bringing CHANGE to our job market these folks will be extremely grateful to be back in India


40 posted on 11/11/2009 1:14:02 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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