Posted on 11/08/2009 5:00:51 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
"...These soldiers were entrusted to carry fully automatic, military assault rifles when deployed to Afghanistan, where the shooter was about to be sent. But in America, these same soldiers are disarmed when on base. From the Associated Press: Soldiers at Fort Hood don't carry weapons unless they are doing training exercises...."
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How many times do we have to experience the ‘gun-free zone’ massacre to begin wondering if maybe the ‘gun-free zone’ might be part of the problem?
What a load of crap! I was never stationed on a post where I had access or needed access to my weapon. The only time I was under arms was when I was issued a sidearm to guard the Ammo Depot at Ft. Bliss. I had my own personal pistol kept in the arms room and I had to sign it out just like I did my M-16. One benefit to having an M1911 signed into the arms room was that the armorer changed out the firing pin, barrel and grips from left over parts.
An armed society is a polite society. - Robert A. Heinlein
So Soldiers need Police protection...?
Right.
Any Jihadists attacking a police station ? They all have guns there, ya know ?
‘twas that way when I was in too.
Except when I found out that my BAR 7 Mag, plus ammo, had been used without my permission...
Rules aren’t the same for all of the people, as you’ve no doubt figured out by now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1u0Byq5Qis
"Suzanna Gratia Hupp explains meaning of 2nd Amendment! "
Getting tired of civilians with NO knowledge making stupid comments about being armed on a military base.
***I had my own personal pistol kept in the arms room and I had to sign it out just like I did my M-16****
The same for me. The Master at Arms later told me he hoped I would be shipped out in the middle of the night and not be able to retreive my pistol. Then HE would get to keep it!
I then found place off base to store it.
Consider that it’s the one of the easiest things in the world to simply pass a stupid law or put up a Self defense denial zone sign.
We should have a NEW law that says that IF you propose that there be one of these so-called ‘Gun-Free’ zones, then YOU should be Responsible to provide Armed protection to all who enter this zone.
If someone is going to Deny a person’s right to self defense, they damn well better be prepared to protect those persons.
If you are not prepared to protect those persons, then don’t deny them the basic human right of self defense.
Times are not the same as they were. We have to behave differently...and protect our soldiers. Let them be armed. What will it hurt?
“...Al Qaeda is to terror what the mafia is to crime. But its goal is not making money; its goal is remaking the world — and imposing its radical beliefs on people everywhere.
...Our enemy is a radical network of terrorists, and every government that supports them.Our war on terror begins with al Qaeda, but it does not end there. It will not end until every terrorist group of global reach has been found, stopped and defeated. ..
They hate our freedoms — our freedom of religion, our freedom of speech, our freedom to vote and assemble and disagree with each other. ...They want to overthrow existing governments in many Muslim countries, such as Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Jordan. They want to drive Israel out of the Middle East. They want to drive Christians and Jews out of vast regions of Asia and Africa. These terrorists kill not merely to end lives, but to disrupt and end a way of life. With every atrocity, they hope that America grows fearful, retreating from the world and forsaking our friends. They stand against us, because we stand in their way.
...Great harm has been done to us. We have suffered great loss. And in our grief and anger we have found our mission and our moment. Freedom and fear are at war. The advance of human freedom — the great achievement of our time, and the great hope of every time — now depends on us.”
-——President Bush (9-20-01)
I’m sorry if everyone who has never lived on a base is ignorant about being on a base. We DON’T UNDERSTAND...considering the circumstances of what happened. Please explain to us who are ignorant. I just want them SAFE ON THEIR BASE, IN THEIR HOMES, WITH THEIR BROTHERS AND SISTERS.
The real problem is political correctness
by everyone in Washington DC.Starting with 0bama and Gates and Casey
and everyone who permitted this openly
self-identified jihadist to remain in the US Army.PC kills !
Read each other’s post, and explain to me why we civilians should not worry about the future safety of our loved ones who are selflessly serving out country. and Ruy Dias de Bivar, thank you for your service.
My uncle said he thought that the removal of guns from military posts started long long long ago - that it has little to do with the modern “gun free zone,” but lots to do with the time period during which the army became desegregated. I have no idea if this historically accurate, though.
The real underlying issue where the military oscillates back and forth is arming guards. The security "issues" on a base are generally dealing with drunks, the odd protestor, and curious members of the public. A typical military base has a real security threat about once a decade. The rate of death/accident from mishandling firearms is a couple per year when guards are armed. It is an easy calculation. - I was a former weapons officer with responsibility for guarding nuclear weapons on a submarine.
Most people really do know that they are not safe at the mall, and that public events are major targets - but civilians have mistakenly believed that there were plenty of MPs guarding the military posts and bases on American soil. Did not realize otherwise.
It has lots to do with some 18 year old on the gate at 3:00AM bored out of his skull playing quick draw mcgraw and shooting himself in the thigh, or taking out his buddy on the other gate.
You and I served in another time. We didn’t have terrorists who vowed to kill us as fellow soldiers.
I have no problem with military personnel with CCW license being allowed to carry anywhere, on base or off in these “modern” times.
Inotherwords, “Boys will be boys and kids will be kids!” LOL
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