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A tale of two overkills
Watts Up With That ^ | Nov. 7, 2009 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 11/08/2009 5:16:28 AM PST by Founding Father

The pyramid of aluminum shown in the photograph figures greatly in our nation’s history. This once rare metal was so prized that it was placed into a national monument by a grateful nation. Can you guess where? Now, aluminum is so common, thanks to an electrical refining process and plentiful, cheap electricity, that we throw it away in soda cans.

Two seemingly unrelated events on opposite sides of the globe occurred this past week.

One was the closure of an aluminum plant in Montana, and the other is the president of a European metals association threatened to move production overseas citing environmental rules and energy costs escalating due to emissions trading schemes.

(Excerpt) Read more at wattsupwiththat.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aluminum; economy; environment
The death of America continues, lost job by lost job...
1 posted on 11/08/2009 5:16:28 AM PST by Founding Father
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To: Founding Father
Why was it not possible for Columbia Falls Aluminum to find sources of electricity other than Bonneville?

We need to look no further than the many environmental groups like the Sierra Club and to America’s elected officials who turned their backs on American citizens and in essence themselves,

Corruption at every level is killing us.

2 posted on 11/08/2009 5:27:54 AM PST by x_plus_one (Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to have George Santayana quoted at them forever)
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To: Founding Father

With any good luck and some degree of irony, if the Obama administration weakens the dollar any more, the cost of manufacturing overseas may become so expensive that American companies will start manufacturing stuff here again. After all, the American worker can make cheap plastic stuff just as well as Chinese workers, and once you make it here you don’t have to ship it here....


3 posted on 11/08/2009 5:33:30 AM PST by Bernard (If you always tell the truth, you never have to remember what you said.)
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To: x_plus_one; Founding Father

“Cap and Job Kill” hasn’t even gone into law, yet, and we are loosing jobs because of it. Thanks to the Democrats and the radical socialist who use the environment as their weapon, we are in for very bad times.


4 posted on 11/08/2009 5:34:33 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (There is no "O" in Transparency.)
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To: Bernard

yeah, but that is what the “Cap and Job Killer” law is for. That will keep the cost here really high so we can’t shift our manufacturing back home. The Democrats are working a real number on us. Our enemies, the Soviet communist couldn’t have planned this one better.


5 posted on 11/08/2009 5:36:50 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (There is no "O" in Transparency.)
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To: Founding Father
Never before in history has it taken a massive publicity campaign to convince the public of a scientific truth.

Never before? Guess they never heard the tale of Lysenko and the Soviet Union! Paging Dr Robert Stadler, please call your office.

6 posted on 11/08/2009 5:39:21 AM PST by Nateman (If liberals aren't screaming you're doing it wrong.)
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To: Founding Father

Cheap, abundant energy drives the economic engine of the west. Nations that throttle their own energy supply will, inevitably, fall in terms of growth and economic output. The United States is cutting its own throat.


7 posted on 11/08/2009 5:45:23 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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To: Bernard

“American worker can make cheap plastic stuff just as well as Chinese workers, and once you make it here you don’t have to ship it here....”
But the cost of regular cup of coffee will be $10.00


8 posted on 11/08/2009 6:10:39 AM PST by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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To: Founding Father

“I used to belong to the Sierra Club in the 1960’s. It used to be a nice hiking club. In the late 1960’s the Sierra Club began turning its attention toward stopping nuclear power. Then I quit the Sierra Club.”

This states what has bugged me for decades. The major environmental groups used to include people of diverse political inclinations. Then the lunatics pushed out the rational members from one group after another. And the rational became voiceless for never having coalesced into any groups of their own.


9 posted on 11/08/2009 6:27:54 AM PST by decimon
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To: steveab

But the cost of regular cup of coffee will be $10.00


Half way there already at Starbucks.

I remember when one could have his choice, for a nickle:

A cup of coffee
A loaf of bread
A beer
A coke
An ice cream cone

I was too young for nickle beer, but I later enjoyed many for a quarter.


10 posted on 11/08/2009 6:37:12 AM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: Nateman

Thank you for the link. The experience of Lysenko illustrates perfectly the intellectual and scientific corruption that occurs when politicians are aggrandized by ideologues for corrupting scientific investigation in the name of political agendas.
Al Gore is the quintessential example of despotic ignorance about legitimate science in pursuit of legislation that increases his personal wealth.


11 posted on 11/08/2009 6:38:50 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (He is the son of soulless slavers, not the son of soulful slaves.+)
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To: steveab
Sorry, got off track there.

I have been saying for some time that we must get rid of the EPA.

They have done more damage to this country than all of the terrorists.

Just a short list:

Spotted owl destroyed the lumber industry on the west coast.
Polar bear ...Alaska oil
Coal fired power
Nuclear power plants
Smelt and farming in CA
Ivory billed wood pecker
Aluminum Company of America
Effect on auto manufacturing

EA has had more to do with driving manufacturing out of this country than any other one thing.

12 posted on 11/08/2009 6:42:28 AM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: old curmudgeon

In the 1950s there was a bar at Broadway and 125th Street near Columbia U. where you could get a small beer and a free lunch (bread and butter, cold cuts, coldslaw, pickled beets, etc. All you could eat) for a dime.


13 posted on 11/08/2009 8:16:35 AM PST by Hiddigeigei (quem deus vult perdere prius dementat)
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To: decimon
we have an acquaintance who belong to a hiking club....the "Mountaineers".....he had trouble staying a member because he hunted.....

most of these groups are closed minded....

a few years ago however, the readers of "Outside" magazine were polled, and majority of them were hunters.....

14 posted on 11/08/2009 9:37:45 PM PST by cherry
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