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Healthcare Bill: Pay for a Plan or Go to Jail
New American ^ | Nov. 7, 2009 | Joe Wolverton, II

Posted on 11/07/2009 9:32:16 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi is prepared to jail any American who does not buy a qualifying health insurance plan if the healthcare bill she sponsored (H.R. 3962, as amended) is passed into law.

On November 6, Congressman Dave Camp (R-Mich.), the senior member of the House Ways and Means Committee, released a letter he received from the Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) in response to his inquiry as to potential penalties for failing to comply with mandates set forth in the so-called “Affordable Health Care for America Act.” The information set out in the response should be shocking, but such unconstitutional abuses of power are becoming de rigueur and have almost lost their ability to stupefy. Still, the details are sinister. As the old saying goes, the devil is definitely in them.

In a letter dated November 5, the Joint Committee on Taxation informed Congressman Camp that there is a broad range of civil and criminal penalties applicable to any American who fails to purchase a health insurance policy that passes legislative muster, or as euphemistically styled in the bill itself: “acceptable health insurance coverage.” As reported by the Congressional Budget Office, the lowest annual cost of an approved family non-group policy would be approximately $15,000. That is to say, currently written in the bill under consideration, if a family’s health insurance plan doesn’t cost at least $15,000 a year, then you are breaking the law and will be held accountable.

As for just exactly what a “qualified plan” will require, no one is quite sure and those who should be (the elected representatives who will be voting for or against the bill) probably haven’t read the complete text because they can’t fit the bill in their briefcases as it is a hefty 1,990 pages.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; communism; democrats; donttreadonme; healthcare; jail; liberalfascism; marxism; obamacare; pelosi; rapeofliberty; socializedmedicine; standdown
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This bill will kill my small business and put me in jail!
1 posted on 11/07/2009 9:32:16 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Can you image the things you can sell this way? Buy a government suicide clown car or go to jail. Buy a 100 square foot government house or go to jail. Buy this soylent green or go directly to the mixing pot.

The profit potential is enormous. Maybe that's why the Constitution doesn't permit such abuse of power.

This is tyranny.

2 posted on 11/07/2009 9:35:27 AM PST by Tarpon (To destroy the people's liberties, you poison their morals ...)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Well of course they are going to put you in jail. If you don’t pay your taxes, they put you in jail. That’s all this is, one giant tax, enforced by threat of jail.


3 posted on 11/07/2009 9:35:39 AM PST by Big E
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Any version of federal health care is unconstitutional since Article 1 Section 8 does not specifically grant Congress the power to regulate health care. The people are not bound by any unconstitutional act conducted by any branch of government.


4 posted on 11/07/2009 9:36:10 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

How long before we can get this beast before the Supreme Court, should it become law?


5 posted on 11/07/2009 9:36:43 AM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is..." - Milton)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

I just got insurance quotes for renewing my policy. The best coverage policy for my whole family at the highest rate, lowest deductible doesn’t even get to $15000 a year ($1250 a month).

Does that mean even if I have the best insurance I can buy from my provider I still go to jail?


6 posted on 11/07/2009 9:37:21 AM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system. I am Jim Thompson.)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Between heath care non compliance and gun owners, the dems seem to really want to create new classes of criminals. They’re going to need to de-criminalize some of the existing crimes to make room in the jails.


7 posted on 11/07/2009 9:39:31 AM PST by SeanOGuano
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Being retired military my wife and I are covered but I have dependent children who are college age but too old for coverage (five year plan, it happens), I can now have the choice of paying for college and having my children arrested, or healthcare and no college, or just borrow until my family or children are forever in debt, oh wait, congress already did that with the stimulus didn’t they!

Our founding fathers aren’t rolling over in their graves, they are spinning nonstop.


8 posted on 11/07/2009 9:43:51 AM PST by Billyv (It is our commonality (desire for liberty) NOT our diversity that makes America great.)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Does anyone have the following figures/data?
Population of the U.S.
Total Number of Medicare beneficiaries.
Total Number of Medicaid beneficiaries.
Total Military personnel & dependent Tricare beneficiaries.
Total Number of Insured employer/employees.
Total Number of persons with individual health care policies
Total Number of really rich, health folks who pay as they go.
Number of people insured under Property and Auto personal injury coverage if accidentally injured?

Does that really leave 46 million people without access to medical care?


9 posted on 11/07/2009 9:49:52 AM PST by sodpoodle (Never give up- Keep Up!!!)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Of course, people in the country illegally are exempt. :)


10 posted on 11/07/2009 9:58:31 AM PST by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Nancy Pelosi is a fascistic penny-ante tyrant.

Take your individual mandate and stick it where the sun don't shine, Pelosi.

11 posted on 11/07/2009 10:00:04 AM PST by jpl
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To: SeanOGuano
"“Do you really think we want those laws observed?" Said Dr. Ferris. We want them broken. You better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against - then you'll know this is not the age for beautiful gestures. We're after power and we mean it. You fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick and you'd better get wise to it. There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted and you create a nation of law-breakers - and then you cash in on guilt. Now, that's the system Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with."

Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged, Part 2, Chapter 3, Page 404

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“The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power.

Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only power, pure power.

What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from all the oligarchies of the past, in that we know what we are doing.

All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives.

They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just round the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal.

We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it.

Power is not a means; it is an end.

One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship.

The object of persecution is persecution.

The object of torture is torture.

The object of power is power”.

-George Orwell, 1984, Part Three, Chapter III, page 263

12 posted on 11/07/2009 10:03:14 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (A moderate muslim is one who is simply buying time to reload..)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Time for the Second Republic.


13 posted on 11/07/2009 10:06:42 AM PST by Lou Budvis ("Don't Just Hope for Better Life - Vote for It." - Thatcher campaign poster)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
I'm having a hard time restraining myself after reading what this douchebag and her scumbag minions have in store for us. Tar and feathers are too mild for these communist pigs. Americans need to protest this bill and tell them to stick it up their ass.
14 posted on 11/07/2009 10:07:41 AM PST by peeps36 (Democrats Don't Need No Stinking Input From You Little People)
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To: sodpoodle
Does that really leave 46 million people without access to medical care?

Everybody in America has "access to medical care".

You just show up at an Emergency Room and, by Federal law, they are required to treat any emergent condition.

15 posted on 11/07/2009 10:10:30 AM PST by Polybius
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

I won’t pay a dime and I won’t go to jail. However, move permanently to my vacation home outside the US, just like my doctor plans to do.


16 posted on 11/07/2009 10:11:13 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: peeps36

Refuse to comply, period! Tell them to stick it. They can’t arrest 150 million or more. Anyone that is against this and goes along with it, is a coward and deserves what they get.


17 posted on 11/07/2009 10:13:30 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
let's see, they can't pay for the criminals they have now in prison and want to let them all out, some never even go to jail now, even after dozens of offences. So now they are going to jail the young, the old, the infirm, no illegal aliens though, probably nobody on welfare, just working or retired people (whitey)who can't in most cases afford it in the first place.

Pelosi thy name is infamy

18 posted on 11/07/2009 10:14:08 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: mojitojoe

At this point I’ve decided the line has been drawn and I plan on non-compliance and jail time. I just have to make arrangements for my daughter, but she will be 18 in a few months.


19 posted on 11/07/2009 10:19:53 AM PST by kevslisababy (It's very hard to earn my trust again)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Please Let your REPRESENTATIVE know your OPPOSITION to this bill: HR 3962

(202)224-3121

or http://www.congress.org/congressorg/directory/congdir.tt


20 posted on 11/07/2009 10:24:02 AM PST by JSDude1 (www.wethepeopleindiana.org (Tea Party Member-Proud), www.travishankins.com (R- IN 09 2010!))
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