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Ft. Hood probers ponder missed signs
NY Post ^ | November 7, 2009 | JOHN DOYLE and ANDY SOLTIS

Posted on 11/07/2009 3:57:27 AM PST by Scanian

Disturbing new details surfaced yesterday about the deranged Fort Hood gunman and his methodical mass murder plot, which survivors say began with him screaming "Allahu akbar," before he fired more than 100 rounds at his fellow soldiers.

The mystery of how Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, an Army psychiatrist, failed to draw concern from military brass before the attack -- despite trying to leave the Army for months, denouncing the war on terror and saying he was "a Muslim first and an American second" -- deepened as families prepared to bury his 13 victims.

Some of the 23 people still hospitalized -- out of 38 wounded in the rampage -- have extremely serious injuries and may not survive

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: allahuakbar; guns; hasan; islamism; jihad; nidalmalikhasan; suicide

1 posted on 11/07/2009 3:57:28 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian
Political correctness mattered more to our high officials than keeping Americans safe. There's no mystery here.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

2 posted on 11/07/2009 3:58:40 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Scanian

If he were kicked out for denouncing the war, he’d have a book deal, which would be subtitled something like “How One Loyal Soldier Was Cashiered For Speaking His Mind” and would appear on Oprah and receive applause while he talked about his great love for this country and its giving him freedom to express himself, even if it goes against the military brass.


3 posted on 11/07/2009 3:59:28 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Nothing is more exhilarating than philistine vulgarity.-- Vladimir Nabokov)
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To: Scanian

...if they start with PC, IT will read like the print on a pencil


4 posted on 11/07/2009 3:59:28 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Scanian

I am thinking the signs weren’t missed so much as not reported or escalated out of fear.
I’ve read his peers in psychiatry openly discussed the possibility he was a terrorist after he gave a lecture justifying suicide bombing with the Koran (in a forum where psychiatric topics are expected to be discussed).

I think people are afraid of lawsuits and their employer punishing them if they speak out.

To protect civilization from atrocity loving islam, we have to change laws to protect citizens who report on possible terrorists.


5 posted on 11/07/2009 4:04:02 AM PST by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Scanian

There is a difference between a “missed sign” and a “not acted upon sign”.

The signs were there - they were not acted upon because of PC.


6 posted on 11/07/2009 4:05:13 AM PST by PeteB570 (Airborne, the only way to get to work in the morning.)
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To: Scanian

This was caused by political correctness, diversity, and cultural sensitivity! If a white officer had been going around saying the things Hasan said for YEARS, he would have been out on the street long ago.

But, you can’t offend the Religion of Peace, can you?


7 posted on 11/07/2009 4:05:37 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Question O-thority!)
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To: Bryanw92
If a white officer had been going around saying the things Hasan said for YEARS, he would have been out on the street long ago.

I think you mean Christian Officer Hasan wasn't black
8 posted on 11/07/2009 4:27:34 AM PST by uncbob
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To: Scanian

The signs were not missed. They were deliberately suppressed and ignored so as to not “offend” the delicate sensibilities of those who favor slicing Jewish necks while chanting religious ditties and filming the ceremony and broadcasting it on the internet for fellow death culters to enjoy while eating halal popcorn.


9 posted on 11/07/2009 4:33:25 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Scanian
MUST SEE:

Lt. Col Ralph Peters on O'Reilly last night

LINK

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCY1lsJg8zs

Somebody gets it and Ralph is on fire, pissed as I've seen anyone about this attack and does not mince words:

Par: "This is the second worst Islamic Terrorist Attack since 9/11."

Watch him take on the US Army, the State-Run Media, and especially, Commander-in-Least, O'Bozzo

Pass it around. Its a keeper!!!

10 posted on 11/07/2009 4:34:15 AM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: Scanian
Signs missed? More likely, the signs were why he was promoted.

“Army Major (Hasan) Played Role in Presidential Transition”

As before the 911 Atrocities (now ‘Natural tragedies’),
the Islamic terrorist community forewarned everyone exactly what
was coming in the handy calendar a year in advance.

No one in Congress ever cared, then, after 911, or now.
Instead, they have tirelessly worked to have taxpayers pay to let more terrorists in.




"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.
We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream.
It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same,
or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children
and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.
"
President Ronald Reagan


11 posted on 11/07/2009 4:37:09 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: uncbob

There are plenty of colors in between white and black. Whether Hasan was hispanic, asian, native american, arab, or black wouldn’t matter. The PC response would be the same—”it’s just a cultural difference. Don’t say anything to offend him or do anything to create an EEO complaint!” Only a white employee (i.e. European) exhibiting his pattern of behavior would be called out for it.


12 posted on 11/07/2009 4:45:02 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Question O-thority!)
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To: Scanian

“Ft. Hood probers ponder missed signs”

The signs were not missed,rather, the dictates of PC required that they be ignored. So they were. So they will continue to be.


13 posted on 11/07/2009 4:46:30 AM PST by TalBlack
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To: TalBlack

http://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/engvall-bill/heres-your-sign-get-the-picture-5978.html

I just hate stupid people.
They should have to wear signs that just say I’m stupid.
That way you wouldn’t rely on them, would you?
You wouldn’t ask them anything. It would be like, “Excuse me...oops,
never mind”
“I didn’t see your sign.”

It’s like before my wife and I moved from Texas to California our house
was full
of boxes and there was a u-Haul truck in our driveway.
My friend comes over and says, “Hey, You moving?”

“Nope.”

“We just pack our stuff up once or twice a week. Just to see how many
boxes it takes.”

“Here’s your sign.”

Why can’t they get the picture? Why don’t they understand?
We’re not dealing with the planet of apes, we’re talking about the
modern man.
So you people with them itsy bitsy teensie weensie tiny minds...
Here’s your sign. Here’s your sign.

A couple of months ago I went fishing with a buddy of mine, we pulled
his boat
into the dock, I lifted up this big ‘ol stringer of bass this idiot on
the dock
goes, “Hey, yall catch all them fish?”

Nope.

“Talked ‘em into giving up.”

“Here’s your sign.”

I was out in the front yard with my boy the other day and he was
playing with his little friend, and he hit his friend and I went up to
him
and I said “Hey, (smacks his boy), we don’t hit.” He looked up at me
like, “Here’s your sign, dad.”

Why can’t they get the picture? Why don’t they understand?
We’re not dealing with the planet of apes, we’re talking about the
modern man.
So you people with them itsy bitsy teensie weensie tiny minds...
Here’s your sign. Here’s your sign.

I was watching one of those animal shows on the Discovery Channel, there
was a guy
inventing a shark bite suit. There’s only one way to test that.
“Alright Jimmy, you got that shark suit on, it looks good... They want
you to jump
into this pool of sharks, and you tell us if it hurts when they bite
you.”

“Well allright....hold my sign, I don’t wanna loose it”

Why can’t they get the picture? Why don’t they understand?
We’re not dealing with the planet of apes, we’re talking about the
modern man.
So you people with them itsy bitsy teensie weensie tiny minds...
Here’s your sign. Here’s your sign.

Last time I was home I was driving around I had a flat tire, I pulled my
truck into one
of these side-of-the-road gas statioons, the attendant walks out, looks
at my truck,
looks at me, I swear to GOD he went, “Tire go flat?”

I couldn’t resist.

I said “Nope”.

“No I was driving around and those other three just swelled right up on
me.”

“Here’s your sign.”

Why can’t they get the picture? Why don’t they understand?
We’re not dealing with the planet of apes, we’re talking about the
modern man.
So you people with them itsy bitsy teensie weensie tiny minds...
People with them little bitty teenie weenie tiny monds...
Here’s your sign.

We were trying to sell our car about a year ago, a guy come over to the
house, drove the
car around for about 45 minutes. We get back to the house, he gets out
of the car, reaches down
and grabs the exhaust pipe, then goes, “Damn thats hot!”

See...

If he’d been wearing his sign, I could have stopped him.


14 posted on 11/07/2009 4:53:42 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: goldstategop

Booting that nutjob from Walter Reed to Ft. Hood reminds me of the Church moving perverted priests from one parish to another. WHEN YOU’VE GOT A PROBLEM, DEAL WITH IT! Don’t just pass the buck and make it someone else’s problem.

Cowardly and indecisive leadership will be the ruin of us all.


15 posted on 11/07/2009 5:27:08 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Darkwolf377

There you go - he could have toured with somebody like Scott McClellan and made big bucks knocking Bush and American foreign policy.


16 posted on 11/07/2009 5:29:13 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Diogenesis

Thanks for your post.

I had not seen the 1983 article....but am totally not surprised.

Unfortunately Zero is going to Ft. Hood.

Wonder if the soldiers there will find creative ways to not show respect. I realize they risk problems if they do that.....I wonder if the brass will force them all to be in attendance whenever zero appears.....I hope not.


17 posted on 11/07/2009 5:31:56 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt (Obama's Deathcare ---- many will suffer and/or die unnecessarily.)
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To: Scanian

There were no missed signs. They were ignored signs. The signs will continue to be ignored and the worshippers of allah will continue to get bolder. Until someone miles away from a major city in the u.S. looks up and aske,”Look at that funny looking cloud over_________.”


18 posted on 11/07/2009 6:02:11 AM PST by sport
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
Unfortunately Zero is going to Ft. Hood.

There's been no announcement to that effect.

19 posted on 11/07/2009 6:09:06 AM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: sport
"There were no missed signs. They were ignored signs."

Perfectly stated summary.

20 posted on 11/07/2009 6:10:24 AM PST by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: browardchad

ACtually heard that announcement yesterday and read it again here on FR - one of the articles this morning....will have to search to find it.


21 posted on 11/07/2009 6:30:18 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt (Obama's Deathcare ---- many will suffer and/or die unnecessarily.)
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To: Scanian
despite trying to leave the Army for months...

Where do they come up with this screed? This guy was an officer. He could resign his commission at any time. He didn't because the Army put him through med school and he would have been on the hook to repay the cost if he didn't serve his obligation. Besides, as a Major he had a decent salary and work schedule. Deployment is a fact of life in the Army - you don't join if you don't want to be deployed. This guy wanted the perks that come with military service and didn't want to pay the price.

22 posted on 11/07/2009 6:45:46 AM PST by RochesterFan
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To: browardchad; LUV W; ohioWfan; snugs; Liz

Well I am still searching to find where I read that Obozo would be going to Ft. Hood.

But while searching, I learned that President George W Bush and his wife have ALREADY visited the wounded from this attack...

“Most of the shooting survivors remained hospitalized, many in intensive care. Former President George W. Bush and his wife, Laura, visited wounded soldiers Friday night at the post hospital. A Bush spokesman said the couple spoke with family members of the wounded and personally thanked hospital staff members and Fort Hood leaders.”

from: http://www.wral.com/news/national_world/national/story/6368735/

No photo op, no press, bet most even on FR don’t know - but W was there. Thank you, Mr. President!!! How we miss him.

(Pinging some others who may or may not know that President GW Bush has already visited the wounded from Ft. Hood).


23 posted on 11/07/2009 6:48:16 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt (Obama's Deathcare ---- many will suffer and/or die unnecessarily.)
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To: Scanian
An act of terrorism pure and simple, Ft. Hood's 9/11. Our enemies greatest and preferred weapon is Political Correctness and they use it and all the useful idiots very well.

Some heads should roll but won't however, new rules about Muslims and political correctness should be put in place. CAIR is like Jesse Jackson and Rev. Sharpton, they make honest criticism and "equal under the law" personal affronts or racial. To heck with that.....this Muslim is a killer, his personal religion may have driven him but that is not an excuse in a civilized society.

24 posted on 11/07/2009 6:57:36 AM PST by yoe
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet
Colonel Peters held me enthralled during his remarks. A real man's man.

Marshmallow Boy, O'Reilly, who always deftly searches for the safest position to take on every issue, didn't have much to say when the Colonel laid it out like it is. I doubt if the facts really got through BOR's inflated head, anyhow.

By all means, watch the clip linked above. It's a must-see.

Thank God we still have some clear thinkers left in this country who are able to get on TV, thanks to Fox.

Leni

25 posted on 11/07/2009 6:57:48 AM PST by MinuteGal (Bill O'Reilly: 9/8/09: "Communism is not a threat to us anymore"-10/20/09: "Obama is not a Marxist")
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To: PeteB570

“The signs were there - they were not acted upon because of PC.”

Absolutely correct.


26 posted on 11/07/2009 8:56:54 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
No photo op, no press, bet most even on FR don’t know - but W was there. Thank you, Mr. President!!! How we miss him.

It's what I expected from GW.

I don't see how the One, (who lacks the ability to empathize with anyone except minority constituencies) could help, console or inspire anyone with his gaggle of aides, photographers, videographers and obnoxious reporters.

27 posted on 11/07/2009 10:43:20 AM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: browardchad

Yes it is what we would expect from W.

No Zero coming would just HURT an already hurting group of soldiers! But I believe he is going there.


28 posted on 11/07/2009 10:48:52 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt (Obama's Deathcare ---- many will suffer and/or die unnecessarily.)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
No Zero coming would just HURT an already hurting group of soldiers! But I believe he is going there.

He (plus Flotus and Totus) are going to the memorial service on Tuesday, per the London Telegraph.

I'm sure the advance men are measuring the light, the speechwriters are readying the verbal awesomeness, and Flotus is choosing her wardrobe.

While the families of the victims suffer.

29 posted on 11/08/2009 7:06:42 AM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: browardchad

Yes indeed. Meanwhile they were so exhausted from the shout out that they are resting up at Camp David.....


30 posted on 11/08/2009 7:14:07 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt (Obama's Deathcare ---- many will suffer and/or die unnecessarily.)
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