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They will bend themselves like pretzels to make this into just another crime, craziness, Bush's fault, or whatever else they can think up.
1 posted on 11/06/2009 8:37:38 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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Of course it isn’t. It never is the race, religion or ethnicity of the perp unless they are white and/or Christian. Whites and Christians are intolerant bigots everyone else is an oppressed minority who’s religion and/or race in never a factor in their despicable behavior.

God help us as we encourage and even participant in our own destruction.


62 posted on 11/06/2009 8:59:44 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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Typical liberal journalist ... insult your readers within the first couple of sentences. Kind of like liberals calling other voters stupid in order to convince them to vote for their candidate.


64 posted on 11/06/2009 9:00:35 AM PST by Jackson57
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I can’t understand how muslims can hang on to 12th century crap. We quit burning witches ( but I’d bring that back for Nancy Pelosi), we don’t have a KKK, and we don’t keep women from voting and wearing sexy clothes. Why don’t those backwards thinking religion of peace zealots set their clocks ahead and try to blend in with modern civilization?


65 posted on 11/06/2009 9:01:18 AM PST by Harley (Life is Tough, But It's a Lot Tougher When You're a Liberal. Stop Global Whining Now.)
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Fort Hood shooter was member of Homeland Security Panel advising Obama (snip) The task force was not officially affiliated with the White House. It was a project of the Homeland Security Policy Institute, an independent thinktank housed at George Washington University, aimed at drafting policy recommendations for the incoming Obama administration.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/


66 posted on 11/06/2009 9:01:44 AM PST by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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Well it obviously was the point to him


67 posted on 11/06/2009 9:02:06 AM PST by Rightly Biased (If Clinton was the first black president then Obama is the first black Jesus.)
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“Can a devout muslim commit these acts?”

A devout jihadist can. And he evidently had made his sympathies known on more than one occasion. The fact that he wasn’t booted out of the army worries me.


70 posted on 11/06/2009 9:05:40 AM PST by marron
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Will the MSM EVER tell the truth-—even by friggin’ ACCIDENT???


71 posted on 11/06/2009 9:06:05 AM PST by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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The shooter handed out Korans in the morning, and shouted Allah Akbar during his afternoon shooting spree.

His religion had EVERYTHING to do with it.


72 posted on 11/06/2009 9:06:10 AM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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They will deny it over and over.

What will they say when we find his Martyrdom video somewhere?


74 posted on 11/06/2009 9:06:42 AM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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Much has and will be made of his religion from people too ignorant to read a Qur'an, or too isolated to talk to a Muslim, or too stubborn to educate themselves. Even the Washington Post calls him a "devout Muslim." But can a "devout Muslim" commit such acts? No more than a "devout Christian" can, no.

Ms. Campbell, I've written a scholarly paper on the Koran and the nature of jihad, have you? I doubt it.

Some people lack the discernment to see that devout means different things to different people. There are people who believe they are devout Christians (indeed, the most devout and truth-loving of Christians) even as they spend their days promoting perversion and covetousness. Consequently, there are "devout" Muslims who don't follow any of the Koran's teachings on dealing with infidels.

78 posted on 11/06/2009 9:11:04 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (We're right! We're free! And we'll fight! And you'll seeeeeeee!)
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The same sort of stuff happened to the Serbs, (before we bombed the heck out of them.) I remember when a Muslim slit the throats of every one in his army unit before disappearing. Funny how it's always Muslims.
79 posted on 11/06/2009 9:13:58 AM PST by D Rider
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Susan Campbell: Just another PC apologists for radical Islam.

Hey Susan 13 people are dead because of the influence Islam had on this “pig in hero's clothing”. You can pretend that his religion had nothing to do with it all you want. You can also pretend the moon is made of cheese and your having a moon cheese sandwich for lunch for all I F’ng care. It's a shame our brave heroes risk their lives to protect your right be an ignorant A-hole. Go face Mecca...traitor!!

81 posted on 11/06/2009 9:15:22 AM PST by skully (Sorry I didn't know Marxism was a race!!)
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"If our difficulties can be ascribed to something that has happened in the past, they cannot serve as evidence of our present inadequacy and cannot blemish our self-confidence and self-esteem." - Eric Hoffer, "The Passionate State of Mind," (1955)

Joel Raupe

Amazing, isn't it?

And this is worse than not having a clue, this sells cluelessness as an acceptable narrative. Of course, had these killings taken place at the neighborhood Olive Garden, people would claim to have a clue, would they not?

They might ask, yet again, what motivated millions of Germans to join the Nazi comic opera, seventy years ago, and why their officers were offended when, after all was said and done, it was explained to them that "just following orders" was hardly an excuse and made a poor defense.

The Fort Hood "shooter" fits a profile, and along more than one track, of those who join Mass Movements. See a definitive work on the subject, "The True Believer," by Eric Hoffer (1951).

The "readiness for self-sacrifice" is a the big clue. The perception of a "permanently ruined self," incapable of socialization and, perhaps more importantly, lacking the capacity or opportunity for achieving a sense of "unquestioned usefulness," the shooter sought self-annihilation and a promised escape from the burden of responsibility that comes with freedom, by submission to a collective, where choice becomes the prerogative of the collective, especially a collective touched with timeless destiny.

Add to Hoffer the singularly Judeo-Christian view that there is no escape from the responsibility that comes from "knowing good and evil," and the panic that sent Adam and Eve running for the tall grass, suddenly aware of their "nakedness," becomes a picture of the Human Condition, for many.

A pet cat will tease a captured and stunned mouse until the prey is exhausted or dead, literally torturing the animal to death, and no one suggests the cat is doing anything other than its "natural born thing."

But if little Johnny does the same thing we might seek professional help for him.

There's no mystery here. The shooter made a deliberate decision, and coldly, based on the perception of having merged an unwanted self with a collective that cannot die, and cannot be questioned.

It's amazing how so recent a history as that of World War II can be lost on so many, so quickly.

But, for a brief time, in the middle 1960's, Hoffer and his definitive work "The True Believer" was required reading in American High Schools and the Longshoreman philosopher was the subject of a CBS prime time television special where he was interviewed for ninety minutes by Walter Cronkite. He even was awarded the American Freedom Medal in 1982.

His work has been back in print since 2001.


82 posted on 11/06/2009 9:15:31 AM PST by Prospero (non est ad astra mollis e terris via)
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She’s got a comments section on her article and she’s actually responding back to the comments, if anyone wants to let her HAVE IT!


83 posted on 11/06/2009 9:21:37 AM PST by RogerWilko
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Much has and will be made of his religion from people too ignorant to read a Qur'an, or too isolated to talk to a Muslim, or too stubborn to educate themselves

What an ignorant woman. My fondest wish would be for this cretin to be plucked from her sheltered life in America and deposited smack dab in the middle of an Islamic country with no hope of return. Leave her there for one year and then ask her about the religion of peace. Imbecilic libs.

84 posted on 11/06/2009 9:21:54 AM PST by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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too ignorant to read a Qur'an

Like you, moron dhimmi. We've read it.

86 posted on 11/06/2009 9:22:58 AM PST by Sir Gawain
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I have had it! I am sick of first the BUSH administration and now the Obama administration along with the FBI, CIA and all of the State run media making excuses and telling us "this has nothing to do with Islam, Muslims or Islamic terrorism. Folks, this has EVERYTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM AND MUSLUMS. This man along with countless others they have all swept under the rug killed BECAUSE HE IS A MUSLIM, BECAUSE OF HIS perverted, Satanic Islamic "religion".

Americans had better wake up fast or our country is going to eventually fall to Islam and end up just like England and France. They are at WAR with us! Everyone of us who do not believe in their false so-called "prophet" Mohammed, or their false "god" Allah is nothing but an INFIDEL. According to the Koran, according to Mohammed, according to the teachings of Islam "infidels" ONLY HAVE THREE CHOICES:

1) Convert to Islam by choice or by force.

2) Become a dhimmi slave under Islam; subject to Islamic masters and subject to Shariah law.

If you staunchly refuse to accept either "choice" number one or choice number 2 you are left with ONLY ONE OTHER "CHOICE":

3) You can DIE for your faith or for your lack of faith. DEATH is the only other "choice" given to "infidels" who refuse to convert or become slaves of Islam!

This is what Islam teaches and what all "good Muslims" believe and practice. If they do not believe and practice this... according to Islam, THEY ARE NOT TRUE MUSLIMS!

Unless and until the Obama administration along with the FBI, CIA and all of the State run media begin to tell the truth and FIGHT TO WIN, we are going to eventually lose our county and we or our children or our children's children are going to be forced to face and "chose" one of the three choices above.

ISLAM IS NOT "the religion of peace", it is the religion of death, destruction, subjugation, violent conquest, murder, fanaticism, and Satanic wickedness... This is what Islam is at it's core.

87 posted on 11/06/2009 9:24:46 AM PST by Jmouse007 (God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, deliver us from evil, in Jesus name, amen.)
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Devout Muslims are waging a war of terror against innocent people all over the world. Blowing up their own children , mothers, grand mothers and everyone else’ too.

These defenders (Susan Cambels) of indefensible acts and those who commit them are worse than the offenders themselves.

This murderer is yet another sleeper who has been activated.

88 posted on 11/06/2009 9:25:31 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (America is ailin'-the cure is Palin.)
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Nidal Malik Hasan, the suspect in yesterday's Fort Hood shootings that killed 13 and wounded 30, identifies as a Muslim.

NOW he is identified as a traitor and a murderer of men, women and children.

93 posted on 11/06/2009 9:32:08 AM PST by Poe White Trash (Wake up!)
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Idiots....devout Christians don’t kill innocent people.....what a TWIT!! Only ONE “religion” does that and offers proudly 72 VIRGINS in HEAVEN when they kill infidels!! The “ROP” has EVERYTHING to do with it!!


95 posted on 11/06/2009 9:34:36 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion,,,,,,the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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