Posted on 11/05/2009 6:44:30 AM PST by mikelets456
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Senate Environment and Public Works Committee on Thursday approved a Democratic climate change bill that would require industry to cut emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases 20 percent by 2020 from 2005 levels.
With Republicans boycotting the committee's work saying more analysis of the legislation was needed, 10 Democrats voted to approve the legislation and one Democrat, Senator Max Baucus, voted against it.
The bill will now become one of several initiatives aimed at attacking global warming. Senator John Kerry is leading an effort with some Republicans and the White House to craft a compromise bill, which likely would not be voted on by the full Senate until next year at the earliest.
(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...
This scares me as much or more than the “health care” BS bill......they sense the danger and are in full gear now!! How do we stop this?
Gotta hurry up and rush this crap through before the Dems are booted out of control of Congress in ‘10.
Not to mention, they have to hurry up to be sure Algore is the first green billionaire.
Fixed.
There is no doubt at all, that this is the worst Congress in the history of the nation.
Lets throw money away!!!!
Just heard Sen. Inhofe on FNC declaring victory - “This bill is dead”.....
WTF, indeed....
EVIL!
No minority party present while vote is passed.
Law requires at least two present.
No minority party present while vote is passed.
Law requires at least two present.
People who run for office saying they are going to do something about the weather should be institutionalized.
There. Corrected it.
They WON.
They don’t need to follow no stinkin’ laws.
There are so many disgusting Democrats............
No minority party present while vote is passed.
Law requires at least two present.
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Hopefully the Repubs will grow a pair and challenge it.
” People who run for office saying they are going to do something about the weather should be institutionalized. “
People who are in office actually *trying* to do something about the weather should be incarcerated...
It’s the people who voted for ‘em that should be institutionalized.... ;)
John Kerry is leading a compromise effort? ....the same Kerry that has tried to eradicate the CRS report on Honduras from the Library of Congress!
In the VietNam era, I saw Kerry as a traitor to his country and his fellow servicemen. His stance on abortion convinced me that he is a traitor to his *stated* religion. My opinion stands.....and has increased.
I do NOT trust anything Kerry does.
Looks like Obama and his lack of publishing a National Security Strategy for the US.
Was, by law, supposed to be published by July, 2009.
Still no NSS. The US Military is rudderless.
But, it’s all about hope and change.
The Chicoms, Russians and other America haters across the globe are laughing their asses off at the dilletantish politically-correct, “green” fools that we have become over the past twenty years.
“grow a pair?” don’t hold your breath....
how long do we have to put up with this crap?
Can anyone spell r-e-v-o-l-u-t-i-o-n?
You would think it would make more sense and be easier for Marxists like Boxer, Kerry (and most of our Democrat Congress, unfortunately) to move to Marxist nations rather than to turn the U.S. into one.
“No minority party present while vote is passed.
Law requires at least two present.”
Not yet. But they had the balls to try it. I am sure it will be countered with references.
I heard him, too. bttt
BTTT
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fools......climate control is above their paygrade.
Boxer, Kerry, et al know that were they to move to Marxist nations, they wouldn’t be pampered like they are here. The leaders would take all their assets - i.e., lots and lots of money - for the common good and help them find a nice 3 room apartment to live in.
The economy must be ROARING back like gangbusters!
The fight against evil (i.e., statism) never ends.
t-r-e-e-o-f-l-i-b-e-r-t-y-n-e-e-d-s-r-e-f-r-e-s-h-i-n-g!!!
To go along with the worst President. GOD help us all.
People who are in office actually *trying* to do something about the weather should be incarcerated...
It’s the people who voted for ‘em that should be institutionalized.... ;)
Worth repeating! I, for one, am willing to pay additional taxes dedicated to nothing but building institutions to hold these fools and to staff them so that no one escapes to spread the sickness.
“don’t be worried, if they somehow manage to pass this (which is unlikely) as soon as the average person sees their energy bill skyrocket they will hound everyone who voted for this turd out of office. And unlike the health care bill, THIS would be easy to repeal once we retake power. “
What makes you say that? I have yet to see any example from DC of any big, bad legislation made law ever being completely reversed.
“don’t be worried, if they somehow manage to pass this (which is unlikely) as soon as the average person sees their energy bill skyrocket they will hound everyone who voted for this turd out of office. And unlike the health care bill, THIS would be easy to repeal once we retake power. “
What makes you say that? I have yet to see any example from DC of any big, bad legislation made law ever being completely reversed.
This bill is dead. There’s no way the Senate will pass cap and trade in an election year. Same goes with ObamaCare. We need to keep the delay games going. If it gets pushed to the next congress, they have to start all over.
They don’t think it matters.
Their plan is to pass “take over of medicine,” pass “tax and bleed,” and initiate the “carbon-credit market.”
They’ll do that as fast as possible.
And then they will grant amnesty to all the illegals in this country AND THOSE CURRENTLY IN LINE TO BECOME CITIZENS LEGALLY. It will be passed in one fell swoop.
At that point, the DNC will be able to look at all the fairly conservative Dems, the independents and moderates, and flip them the bird with a big, smug smile.
nuclear option...
Barbara Boxer plans to bypass Republicans on climate vote
Senate Environment and Public Works Chairwoman Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) plans to exploit a committee loophole and completely bypass the GOP on Thursday if Republicans continue their boycott of the legislative markup, according to Democratic aides and lobbyists.
Republicans have refused to attend the markup of the legislation until the Environmental Protection Agency delivers an additional analysis of the bill.
Some aides have described this decision to pass a bill without any Republicans present as a “nuclear option” because it bypasses the usual custom of having a few Republicans there for a quorum.
EPW Committee rules state that opening a “business meeting” requires one-third of the members of the committee, including two members of the minority party. But legislation can be approved by the committee with a simple majority of members, an exception Boxer could use to pass her bill.
More...
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29175.html
We’ll need lawsuits against this and the healthcare bill. The only way they can be stopped is in the courts. I hope to God someone is planning to sue. The Supreme Court is the only way to stop them from turning the US into a socialized country.
Bump
Here is a thread about the rule.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2378551/posts
So here we are at the second day of Kerry-Boxer markup and the second day Boxer chose to proceed without GOP representation, despite committee rules requiring two members of the minority be present in order to provide a quorum for a markup.
It seems Boxer cited a “provision in the rules” she claims allows her to proceed as long as a majority of committee members are present. Not that I don’t trust her, although I most certainly do not, but I thought a quick trip over to the EPW rules site for a look-see was in order.
Now, according to Rule 2 of the committee rules: [my emphasis]
“At committee business meetings, and for the purpose of approving the issuance of a subpoena or approving a committee resolution, one third of the members of the committee, at least two of whom are members of the minority party, constitute a quorum, except as provided in subsection (d).”
And it appears to be the language of subsection (d) that Boxer is attempting to play games with:
“No measure or matter may be reported to the Senate by the committee unless a majority of committee members cast votes in person.”
From a layman’s reading, one would surmise that although the bill can be reported out of committee with a simple majority, at least 2 Republicans need be present to consider any amendments. In which case, Boxer’s decision to continue markup sessions without minority representation would be as illegal as it is unprecedented.
Oh, Kerry is leading a compromise effort? Well, he’ll have McLame, his butt-monkey Graham, Snowe and Collins to go along.
Bingo Louis. Too many Freepers are running around in despondent panic over these two good-as-dead bills. No way dumbocare or crap n trade pass.
I wish I could say I am shocked too, but nobody was paying attention last week or cared when calls needed to go to the committee...
Live Committee Hearing on Kerry-Boxer Bill (Cap & Trade, Smart Grid)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2372872/posts
Clean Energy Jobs and American Power Act
http://kerry.senate.gov/cleanenergyjobsandamericanpower/pdf/bill.pdf
It is nothing but a tax basically, which is easily undone with the equivalent of a tax cut.
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