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After all the fuss, public health plan covers few (Two percent, for that, we upset the apple cart?)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 11/1/09 | Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar - ap

Posted on 11/01/2009 10:08:23 AM PST by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON – What's all the fuss about? After all the noise over Democrats' push for a government insurance plan to compete with private carriers, coverage numbers are finally in: Two percent.

That's the estimated share of Americans younger than 65 who'd sign up for the public option plan under the health care bill that Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., is steering toward House approval.

The underwhelming statistic is raising questions about whether the government plan will be the iron-fisted competitor that private insurers warn will shut them down or a niche operator that becomes a haven for patients with health insurance horror stories.

Some experts are wondering if lawmakers have wasted too much time arguing about the public plan, giving short shrift to basics such as ensuring that new coverage will be affordable.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fuss; healthplan; obamacare; publicoption
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1 posted on 11/01/2009 10:08:23 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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This Gubamint excels at wasting time, money and patience.


2 posted on 11/01/2009 10:09:19 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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To: NormsRevenge

BTTT


3 posted on 11/01/2009 10:09:51 AM PST by jersey117
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To: NormsRevenge

Please, oh please, let that be an Obama”care” death knell I heard while reading this!


4 posted on 11/01/2009 10:13:25 AM PST by fullchroma (Obama: GET OUT OF MY DOCTOR'S OFFICE!)
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To: NormsRevenge

No AP, the question should be.

Why are we restructuing the whole system for little or no gain? Maybe they should go back to the drawing board and address the problems rather then manufacture a whole new system


5 posted on 11/01/2009 10:20:07 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Note to the GOP: Do not count your votes until they are cast.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Perhaps at some point it will dawn on even the relatively dimwitted people at AP that the reason so few people are covered at such enormous cost with such disruptive change is that this isn't, and never was, about health insurance at all.
6 posted on 11/01/2009 10:24:45 AM PST by FredZarguna (It looks just like a Telefunken U-47. In leather.)
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To: NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; tubebender; hedgetrimmer; forester; Ernest_at_the_Beach; BOBTHENAILER
Good for AP for once!!!

A TRILLION DOLLARS, PLUS for 2 lousy PERCENT???

Here is our "clarion call" folks... Here it is courtesy of the MSM/DBM Associated Press!!!

Mention this at the watercooler and to everyone you meet, phone, or correspond with!!!

This is the final straw!!!

7 posted on 11/01/2009 10:34:09 AM PST by SierraWasp ("Homeland Defense" begins at HOME!!! He who hesitates, is LOST!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; ...

The list, ping


8 posted on 11/01/2009 10:37:26 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: SierraWasp

Obamacare isn’t about the 2%, it’s about taking dictatorial control over the 98%. The Old Constitutional Republic is beeing swept away and replaced with the growing fderal oligarchy the DNC and their affirmative action puppet are installing as we type our opposition.


9 posted on 11/01/2009 10:39:06 AM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: NormsRevenge; calcowgirl; AuntB; Liz; marsh2; Amerigomag; dalereed; WilliamofCarmichael; ...
My goodness! Just look at this!! They've finally gone from "the supblime, to the ridiculous"!!!

And their own CONgressional Budget Office just shoved a huge wooden stake in their plan's heart, if we all follow up on this amazing development!!!

10 posted on 11/01/2009 10:53:06 AM PST by SierraWasp (A TRILLION DOLLARS PLUS for TWO LOUSY PERCENT COVERED by the Dems latest health plan???)
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To: FredZarguna
"this isn't, and never was, about health insurance at all."

Man! Your wit just cuts right through the poop like a hot razor through warm butter!!!

11 posted on 11/01/2009 10:58:00 AM PST by SierraWasp (A TRILLION DOLLARS PLUS for TWO LOUSY PERCENT COVERED by the Dems latest health plan???)
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To: NormsRevenge

Its never ever been about health care....its all about BIG BROTHER

When will people wake up and realize that OBAMA is PURE EVIL....this is no longer about politics its about the battle between Lucifer and Jesus

We are at the doorway of the great tribulation and socialism/communism is the tactic that the devil is going to employ.


12 posted on 11/01/2009 11:04:17 AM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: NormsRevenge
This not about health care it is about controlling trillions of new tax dollars and calling it health care. Their workhorse baby boomers are aging and they have no other source of taxes other than taking what is left of there wealth.
13 posted on 11/01/2009 11:08:10 AM PST by poobear
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To: NormsRevenge

Once they get their foot in the door, there will be no going back. 2% may be the number who WANT to sign up for this, but everyone else is going to find their current insurance going belly up, so they will either sign up, too, or die when they get sick.


14 posted on 11/01/2009 11:11:11 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: NormsRevenge

So why does my sickly liberal neighbor who can’t let a week go by without either she or her husband or her mother or her children going to mutiple doctors for checkups and examins and tests and then on to pharmacies for one prescription or another take great pleasure in the passage of government health care? They already plan their days around medical appointments, yet can’t seem to wait for the socialist healthcare model.


15 posted on 11/01/2009 11:15:33 AM PST by EverOnward
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To: EverOnward; BOBTHENAILER
"So why does my sickly liberal neighbor..."

Because they major in the minors! To them, all this little stuff is what they want to have "a right" to, not caring, of course, that all that over-utilization is what's driving up most of the driven up costs!!!

Furthermore, they refuse to think about the major things until faced with the possibility of DEATH and then, cost is no object and they feel entitled to the best that money can buy to keep them, or their loved ones alive at any cost no matter who pays for it!!!

There, now... Did that help you acheive a better understanding of your sickly liberal neighbor??? They're almost all like that, along with a few so-called CONservatives!!!

16 posted on 11/01/2009 11:53:12 AM PST by SierraWasp (A TRILLION DOLLARS PLUS for TWO LOUSY PERCENT COVERED by the Dems latest health plan???)
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To: SierraWasp

I see this differently than many of my colleagues here. The CBO scores what they are told to score. The way the bill is designed, the public option will increase dramatically as employers take the penalty rather than pay the increased costs. Now the Dems have a problem. If they admit that 2% is correct, many will ask why all the trouble? If they fess up and tell the truth, folks will know they are lying to us about keeping their own doctors. I was “in charge” of resident education in Hematology and Medical Oncology for close to 30 years. When I was a house staff officer, we wore white coats, had clean hair, wore ties and shoes. This crop wears sloppy scrubs even when they are not in the OR or on call and sandals. Their personal grooming looks terrible. They sleep during conferences. I know every generation says the next is a “mess” but believe me, the new crop is not the same as the old already. We (my generation) did Medicine as a vocation). I know somebody is going to write a diatribe against doctors. I can list all the complaints. However, soon they will have good reason to complain. Somebody (a lefty) is going to reply we have a terrible system. In fact, we are #37 according to the WHO. Go to the WHO report and read what criteria they used to calculate the scores. Then honestly tell me they are not a joke! Then look at responsiveness scores and we are the best. Read the Stanford study to show we are the best. However, most talented young folks will not go into medicine, not because of the money, but because we have a terrible problem with a Neanderthal like Nancy Pelosi talking down to us.


17 posted on 11/01/2009 12:48:52 PM PST by AZFolks
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To: socialismisinsidious


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18 posted on 11/01/2009 7:24:19 PM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: AZFolks

I couldn’t find one thing to disagree with what you wrote! Especially about that sick joke called the World Health Organization!!!


19 posted on 11/01/2009 7:35:48 PM PST by SierraWasp (A TRILLION DOLLARS PLUS for TWO LOUSY PERCENT COVERED by the Dems latest health plan???)
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To: SierraWasp; NormsRevenge; tubebender; hedgetrimmer; forester; Ernest_at_the_Beach; BOBTHENAILER; ...

This ponzi scheme for 2% of the so called uncovered is nothing but a redistribution of our wealth/income into the SEIU Thugs pockets and probably members of Congress with back doors open to those who will benefit from this fiasco.

AP has had some good and interesting financial articles since this summer in my local fishwrap and on Yahoo.


20 posted on 11/02/2009 7:31:20 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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