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Patrick Henry "Ratified": The Treaty Power, It's Perils and Portents
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| 10-26-09
| Mark Edward Vande Pol
Posted on 10/26/2009 7:45:44 AM PDT by Carry_Okie
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It's been quite a while since I've posted an article, but the situation so warrants.
Enjoy! (sort of)
To: Dog Gone; glock rocks; Amerigomag; Artist; lepton; Buckhead; RadioAstronomer; Kevin Curry; ...
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posted on
10/26/2009 7:47:40 AM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
To: Carry_Okie
Thanks! So the upshot is that we’re screwed, right?
To: Republic of Texas
Thanks! So the upshot is that were screwed, right? I wouldn't put it that way. We certainly have been screwed. That does not mean we cannot institute a counter strategy. Read the article; it references just such a plan.
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posted on
10/26/2009 7:58:40 AM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
To: Carry_Okie
Thank you for sharing this. It IS pretty scary, but we have to know about it.
Your writing is superb, as usual.
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posted on
10/26/2009 7:58:49 AM PDT
by
EggsAckley
(There's an Ethiopian in the fuel supply. W.C. Fields)
To: Carry_Okie
I know, I was kidding. We can always plant a new tree of liberty, can’t we?
To: Carry_Okie
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posted on
10/26/2009 8:14:35 AM PDT
by
Lurkina.n.Learnin
(Waste and fraud are synonymous with gov't spending)
To: Republic of Texas
I know, I was kidding. I'm not kidding at all when I refer to a counter-strategy. It's amazing.
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posted on
10/26/2009 8:14:41 AM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
To: Squantos; hiredhand; Joe Brower; GeronL; bang_list
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posted on
10/26/2009 8:28:27 AM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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10/26/2009 8:40:29 AM PDT
by
steelyourfaith
(Limit all U.S. politicians to two terms: One in office and one in prison! to s)
To: steelyourfaith
Thank you.
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posted on
10/26/2009 8:41:52 AM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
To: Carry_Okie
Thanx to you for the excellent, interesting piece !
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posted on
10/26/2009 8:45:14 AM PDT
by
steelyourfaith
(Limit all U.S. politicians to two terms: One in office and one in prison! to s)
To: SunkenCiv
Ping for historical procrastination.
The treaties are coming home to RULE the roost.
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posted on
10/26/2009 8:47:32 AM PDT
by
Avoiding_Sulla
(Yesterday's Left = today's status quo. Thus "CONSERVATIVE": a conflicted label for battling tyranny.)
To: Carry_Okie; bamahead; Jeff Head
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10/26/2009 9:09:37 AM PDT
by
EdReform
(The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
To: Republic of Texas
We can always plant a new tree of liberty, cant we? I don't see why not. The seeds are in shorter supply these days, but still can be purchased at your local sporting goods store.
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posted on
10/26/2009 9:10:18 AM PDT
by
Charles Martel
("Endeavor to persevere...")
To: Carry_Okie
“IS about global government”
... which would almost certainly be a bad thing, whatever flag it was under. But let’s make clear that the threat is LEFTIST global government. Not some global government of administration, but a simple Power Grab.
Napoleon, Alexander the Great, Hitler - these all wanted “world government” - which is just Power Grab.
That does need spelling out. The idea that our grand overlords are “beneficient & kind administrators” has been pushed hard.
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posted on
10/26/2009 9:17:09 AM PDT
by
chuck_the_tv_out
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo
Not our normal topic of discussion, but I think you'll enjoy it anyway.
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posted on
10/26/2009 11:25:13 AM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
To: Carry_Okie
Interesting! Good to see you writing again.
About treaties...the congress can and HAS reversed treaties. They are NOT the last word. In 1866, they made a treaty with the Cherokee Nation, holding they would not be taxed on tobacco.
[snip] The Boudinot Tabacco Factory was located just inside Indian Territory near Siloam Springs, Arkansas and proved popular and lucrative to local businesses. Noticing the success of the enterprise and the temptation of revenue and reprisal, the government acted upon a law they had just imposed for a federal excise tax on tobacco and distilled spirits which did not exempt Indian Territory.
Watie refused to pay what he considered an illegitimate tax against a sovereign state and in violation of the treaty made only a year before which held Cherokee or other tribes were not subject such tax. Boudinot, having been involved in writing the language of the treaty, knew the congress and the government had acted outside the agreement.
Nevertheless, federal officers confiscated and closed the factory, seized the assets to pay the back tax and forced Watie into bankruptcy. Boudinot filed suit against the government, but typically the case was long delayed. This became a landmark decision, setting precedent that a law passed by Congress could supersede provisions of even a recent treaty.
From Chapter 16 “Jesus Wept” An American Story
http://jesusweptanamericanstory.blogspot.com/
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posted on
10/26/2009 1:46:52 PM PDT
by
AuntB
(If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
To: AuntB
About treaties...the congress can and HAS reversed treaties. They are NOT the last word. Looks like situational supremacy to me. Had the Treasury been borrowing money from the Cherokee so that the Congress could keep spending and the Fed printing money...
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posted on
10/26/2009 1:51:22 PM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
To: Carry_Okie
“Looks like situational supremacy to me.”
Agreed. But then with ‘government’ these days, what isn’t??
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posted on
10/26/2009 2:05:04 PM PDT
by
AuntB
(If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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