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Lest We Forget: SEIU, ACORN Behind Ongoing Push For Socialized Medicine
Biggovernment.com ^ | October 23, 2009 | by Kyle Olson

Posted on 10/23/2009 1:47:29 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar

ACORN founder-turned-pariah Wade Rathke explained in late July SEIU’s and ACORN’s involvement in the push for socialized medicine.

Who really wants a government takeover of health care? Labor unions and tax eaters. The question remains: if and when the Congress passes “reform,” will the American people understand who is really behind it?

Video at link.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: acorn; healthcarereform; laborunions; obamacare; seiu; socializedmedicine; waderathke

1 posted on 10/23/2009 1:47:30 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: FlingWingFlyer; altair; stephenjohnbanker; little jeremiah; ~Kim4VRWC's~; voteNRA; CaliforniaCon; ..
ACORN Ping!

FReep mail me if you want on/off the list.


2 posted on 10/23/2009 1:48:00 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (A mob of one.)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Direct quote from SEIU bylaws.

We must organize unorganized Healthcare workers, extending to them the gains of unionism while securing control over the Healthcare industry.

SEIU bylaws pdf
3 posted on 10/23/2009 1:59:23 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: cripplecreek

Thank you.


4 posted on 10/23/2009 2:00:34 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (A mob of one.)
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To: Jet Jaguar
I don't believe for one minute that HCR has anything to do with health care.
Not about improving it in any way at least.

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I think that the main purpose of Health Care Reform (HCR) is to be a direct assault on individual liberties.

HCR is not just about rationing and wealth redistribution. It's about the end of all individual rights as the corrosive effects of the new collectivist basic human right to health care spreads throughout the legal and political system like a virus.

Congressman Anthony Weiner says that health care is not a commodity. If health care is not a commodity then doctors and nurses are not free and sovereign citizens. If health care is a right then health care workers are slaves to that right who must serve it. No health care worker could refuse to provide their services, for any reason, because that would violate the patient's basic human right to health care.

That means that health care providers have no individual rights. The collective right of the people to receive health care would supersede the provider's individual right to set their fees, their hours or change their occupational status or even decide how to apply their skills and knowledge. A collective right, by practical definition, is a state right because it is a right that is provided by the government to all not protected by the government as something possessed by each person. It is also a state right because it supersedes the individual rights of others when the two come into conflict.

It isn't stated in any of the bills that a patient's rights to care supersedes a provider's right to set fees and hours etc, but it doesn't need to. Rights are always adjudicated in the courts. The legislation simply establishes the foundation for the courts to rule in favor of the patient's collective right to health care.

Weiner’s view is collectivist, fascist and totalitarian. Collectivist because it is superior to an individual right. Fascist because it is overseen by one entity the Federal government. Totalitarian because the Federal government is the true possessor of this collective right and the administrator and enforcer of it as well.

Congressman Weiner's view is the underlying philosophy of the entire Health Care Reform legislation the House and Senate have put forth. Consider the setting up of community watch dogs to monitor various health parameters of citizens in the Senate version of the bill. Look at pages 382 - 393.

TITLE I—QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL AMERICANS

Even the citizens themselves will be subject to state set regulations on their behavior in order to fulfill the human right of universal health care. It isn't the individual's liberty that is being protected by that it is the state's control over its health care system that is being guarded. How much clearer can it be that these bills abrogate the concept of individual rights?

Health Care is a Liberty Issue
Conservative Underground - 18 August 2009 - Tim Dunkin

Another Stupid Argument: Heath Care is a Right

Involuntary Medical Servitude

Obama's Authoritarian, Unconstitutional Health Care Proposal

Defining A Right In America

To Americans Who Believe Healthcare is a Right

OBAMA: HEALTH CARE DESTROYING FREE SPEECH

Second Bill of Rights aka FDR's economic bill of rights
(An early attempt to embed collective rights into American politics and society.)

5 posted on 10/23/2009 2:09:17 PM PDT by TigersEye (Democracy sucks!)
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To: cripplecreek

“We must organize unorganized Healthcare workers, extending to them the gains of unionism while securing control over the Healthcare industry.

SEIU bylaws pdf “

Proof of the total destruction of our healthcare system.


6 posted on 10/24/2009 7:46:13 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

In my opinion it makes them the single most dangerous (and deadly) union there is.

Imagine a system where the quality of care doled out is directly related to union and democrat party standing. They get top notch modern medical care in the best new hospitals. We get care of a veterinarian if we’re lucky in a filthy hospital while we lay on filth covered cots.


7 posted on 10/24/2009 8:15:27 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: cripplecreek

“Imagine a system where the quality of care doled out is directly related to union and democrat party standing. They get top notch modern medical care in the best new hospitals. We get care of a veterinarian if we’re lucky in a filthy hospital while we lay on filth covered cots.”

Obama’s New World Order.......squalor.


8 posted on 10/24/2009 9:32:20 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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