Posted on 10/21/2009 3:43:12 PM PDT by pissant
On NY-23, I'm with Fred Thompson and Jack Fowler: A Conservative can win in a three-way race, and Doug Hoffman is deserving of your support.
Newt really needs to re-think his support for Dede Scozzafava. This isn't RINO but DIABLO - Democrat In All But Label Only. It's not one of those "socially liberal, fiscally conservative" bi-swinger deals — not when you're pro-"stimulus", pro-cash-for-clunkers. And the reductive argument that her sole redeeming value - a willingness to vote for John Boehner as Speaker — is reason enough to support her is silly in a special election. If he's ever Speaker, Boehner won't be till January 2011, and it's 12 months premature for Newt to be telling voters they need to suck it up and accept that a handful of Jim-Jeffords-in-embryo-form are necessary for the Republican tide.
But beyond all that there's now a competence issue: Since the cop-calling and its aftermath, the candidate has demonstrated that there is no case for her whatsoever. At this stage in the nation's affairs, Washington doesn't need another incoherent buffoon insulated by a phalanx of thin-skinned twerps already guarding her like a 30-year incumbent for whom routine questions are an outrageous form of lèse-majesté. By any reasonable measure, this candidate is unworthy of a seat in the national legislature.
The tea parties and town halls were a response not just to Obama but to the 2006/2008 GOP. If Dede Scozzafava wins, it's a loss — a serious loss — for those voters who believe irresponsible spending by feckless federal mediocrities will deny future generations any shot at the American Dream. If Doug Hoffman wins, as I believe he can, great. But, if he doesn't and the seat falls to the Dem, it will be a cautionary tale for party leaders who, as in NY-23, make choices that confirm everything a disgruntled base thinks of them.
Good for Steyn.
“The tea parties and town halls were a response not just to Obama but to the 2006/2008 GOP.”
Correct. Obama ignores criticism. The tea parties are technically only useful in sending a message to the GOP not the tin eared demorats.
I’m one of the few people around here dumb enough to keep defending Newt, and he insists on embarrassing me.
I give up.
Mark Steyn is being too nice.
/sarcasm
Mark Steyn is a decent radio host, but an excellent opinion piece writer. He’s got traces of Ann Coulter (with proper Canadian restraints in place) and WFB in his writing style.
The GOP leadership will learn the opposite lesson.
They’ll say the tent isn’t big enough.
Rule #1, politicians are always for themselves first, and citizen's a distant 52nd.
I’m one of the few people around here dumb enough to keep defending Newt, and he insists on embarrassing me.
I give up.
I understand. How the mighty have fallen.
DIABLO! That’s great and can replace RINO in cases like Scozzofava and Olympia Snow.
I’m kind of surprised Sarah “I’ll campaign for any conservative” Palin hasn’t come out for Hoffman here as well.
If she’s smart, she will.
They are.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus
DIABLO bump!
Rule #2, rarely (maybe one a decade) does politics attract someone with an actual soul- which is why you should never follow a person, only follow principle.
Not only Newt, but Boehner, Cantor, support Dede Schizzo....which should tell you that the GOP is nothing more than DNC-lite....and REAL Conservatives never willy-nilly vote for someone because they have an “R” next to their name
“DIABLO - Democrat In All But Label Only”
I love this new term!
Welcome aboard! We missed you at the party! It is never too late...
I am glad you have given up defending Duh-Newt.
He wrote a letter supporting her and said in the letter she is the new direction of the republican party.
“DIABLO”
Should be added to the Free Republic lexicon!
Newt is punkin us. There is no other explanation.
Besides syphilis.
Newt is the one that declared that Reaganism is dead. I don’t trust him and he is showing very bad judgement here. I really don’t think he gets it. The RINO’s will not win anymore.
I agree, he doesn’t have a good radio voice. But he’s an excellent columnist.
Given the newsperson cop call, she’s a Howlin’ DIABLO.
“DIABLO - Democrat In All But Label Only”
I like it.
SO much more descriptive. Curse be upon Newt Gingrich for giving this person support. She would never return the favor.
Leave it to Mark to come up with DIABLO. I LOVE it!
Believe me, (us)...many of us want to support Newt, but I’m fed up with him and have also given up. He has drunk the KoolAid and is totally out of touch with the conservative base.
I give up.
Welcome back. I too at one time thought that Newt still had a place in the RNC devoted to educating young voters. Instead he has become a mouthpiece for the MM global warming push, cavorts with the most heinous of Dems, and proven himself an enemy of the Constitution and the Republic. Doom on his ass!
Why? She hasn’t come out for Rubio or Toomey, why expect her to come out for Hoffman?
Fair enough.
This made me laugh. Good one.
BTTT
You gotta love that!
Oops—I searched, but didn’t see this.
Sure you did. You just got so excited it was Steyn that you went straight to the “post” button. I know yer type. ;o)
I am, too. I hope she does, and soon.
Hee! Ready, fire, aim! :)
Yes.
Steele has shown a breathtaking ability to learn the wrong lesson.
Personally I am loyal to conservative values not people who say they are conservative yet perform like a liberal or moderate socialist. Be they someone we chose yesterday by accident or someone we choose tomorrow on purpose if they stray from conservative values we are not obligated to keep supporting them or staying quiet about their performance.
..... Thus the reason I vote on ones record versus ones promises. Anything less is IMHO a risky bet at best. Such as the lesser of two evils concepts we are usually presented during an election. No polidiot is perfect, no polidiot deserves blind silent devotion. Politics has a human element as we all know and is fallible to the nth degree. Constant attention to it’s every act is the effort that must be maintained to preserve our beloved republic and liberty.
Just my opinion of course.
Stay safe
What? I laugh my a$$ off when he is on for el~Rushbo!
AKA: "Talk Radio Czar".
I contributed to Hoffman’s campaign yesterday, and I haven’t contributed to the RNC in 3 years (I am from Oklahoma so I have no local interest.) I’ll be damned if I ever vote for another Rino, especially if Gingrich is pushing it (remember, he climbed on a couch with Pelosi to promote Climate Change Legislation. Do we need him? I think not.
Good for ALL of them!
Exactly how is that redeeming?
I read Rep. Boehner's op-ed contribution in USA Today this weekend (note that their lead editorial blaming both parties was actually quite refreshing...I kid y'all NOT!) in which he claimed that the GOP establishment had "learned its lesson."
Clearly, the ongoing Scozzafava episode illustrates otherwise, and either Boehner is an idiot or a liar or both.
Markos Moulitsas, founder of The Daily Kos has endorsed Scozzafava. Dede Scozzafava has also been endorsed by NYSUT, the largest labor union in New York, and an affiliate of the National Education Association.
Scozzafava also holds these positions:
Scozzafava has also run in past elections on the Working Families Party (a progressive party associated with ACORN) line on the ballot.
This lady isn’t a RINO, she is a big “R” libeRal democRat.
There are also 17 RINOs in the house who have donated funds to this LibeRal democRat's campaign. They include Boehner and Cantor. I don’t have a full list, but I will be looking for it. These unprincipled RINO enablers should be targeted for elimination in the primaries next year.
| From the desk of cc2k: |
I support Doug Hoffman for Congress (PayPal). Please, spread the word about this important election on November 3, 2009 in New York’s 23rd congressional district. |
What is that district like....Gay? BLACK? UNION? HILLBILLY? If any of these, it’s going to the Democrats.
From what I can tell, none of the above.
Ann Archy wrote:
What is that district like....Gay? BLACK? UNION? HILLBILLY? If any of these, it’s going to the Democrats.
In a fair, straight up race, Hoffman would be their guy.
In 2008, the district went to John McHugh, a relatively conservative Republican with a 71.55% lifetime rating from the American Conservative Union and an 82% cumulative rating from the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. McHugh won this district with over 65% of the vote. McCain lost this district. Possibly the message last year was RINO=No, Conservative=Yes.
Money and advertising are really distorting the polls this year, and could distort the results.
The candidate selection is also very strange. The Dems have run a relatively conservative “Blue Dog” type of candidate. The Republicans have the flaming leftist. And Doug Hoffman, the Conservative is closest to McHugh on the issues.
One of the reasons Markos Moulitsas endorsed her was because he didn’t want another blue dog for Pelosi and company to have to compromise with. The fact that Scozzafava has signed on to much of the Pelosi agenda is even better for him.
There are apparently 17 Scozzafava enablers in the House. The list includes Boehner, Cantor, Sessions, Hensarling, Brown-Waite and McCotter. We will have to check the FEC filings to find out about the others. Also, Susan Collins, Senator from Maine will be campaigning for Scozzafava this weekend.
UCFRoadWarrior wrote:
Not only Newt, but Boehner, Cantor, support Dede Schizzo....which should tell you that the GOP is nothing more than DNC-lite....and REAL Conservatives never willy-nilly vote for someone because they have an “R” next to their name
| From the desk of cc2k: |
I support Doug Hoffman for Congress (PayPal). Please, spread the word about this important election on November 3, 2009 in New York’s 23rd congressional district. |
A few days ago on FR, I referred to her as “Arlen-Specter-in-waiting”, rather than the Jeffords comparison.
This is indeed a special race, and I might be going upstate
even though I live in Bergen County NJ. I have always been ambivalent about Gingrich, while still respecting him, but if he continues to cling to his endorsement of this woman, his residual popularity with “the Base” will start to evaporate, probably permanently.
http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docID=district-2010-NY-23
That sums it up
Historically Republican (since 1870’s). In 2006 the rats won a state senate seat in the area that had been GOP just as long.
GOP Registration edge.
Narrow Obama carry in 2008.
Narrow Bush carry in 2004 and 2000.
I'd love to know the details of this program. Do they hand out certificates of achievement on graduation day?
sorry, i replied to the wrong thread
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