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Russia's Leaders See China as Template for Ruling
.nytimes.com ^ | October 17, 2009 | CLIFFORD J. LEVY

Posted on 10/17/2009 7:25:16 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

MOSCOW — Nearly two decades after the collapse of the Communist Party, Russia’s rulers have hit upon a model for future success: the Communist Party.

Aleksandr D. Zhukov, a Russian deputy prime minister, praised the Chinese Communist Party at a meeting in Suifenhe, China.

Or at least, the one that reigns next door.

Like an envious underachiever, Vladimir V. Putin’s party, United Russia, is increasingly examining how it can emulate the Chinese Communist Party, especially its skill in shepherding China through the financial crisis relatively unbowed.

United Russia’s leaders even convened a special meeting this month with senior Chinese Communist Party officials to hear firsthand how they wield power.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: china; communisim; globalorder; leaders; nwo; obamacowtailscommies; russia
In the next paragraph the Russians express no desire to return to Communism.

I will sell ya the Brooklyn Bridge ya interested?

1 posted on 10/17/2009 7:25:17 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

People like Putin care about POWER. They’ll go with whatever “ism” gets ‘em where they wanna be.


2 posted on 10/17/2009 7:35:41 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Between Stalin and Mao, over 100 million were murdered in the name of Communism.

In the US close to 50 million have been murdered since Roe v. Wade.

These lefties really know how to preserve life and liberty, don’t they?


3 posted on 10/17/2009 7:37:28 PM PDT by Canedawg (FUBO)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
What they admire, it seems, is the Chinese ability to use a one-party system to keep tight control over the country while still driving significant economic growth.

The NY Slimes, Russian Communists and even some Chinese Communists can't even figure out or admit that the reason China has done so well is that they are NOT Communist. American Marxists, like the Slimes keep talking communism as a political system, like they want it to be.

It's not. It's an ECONOMIC system (and philosophy).

China is not economically communist, they are very close to capitalist, that's why their economy works.

They operate politically as a tyrannical dictatorship that has very rich used to be communists in all the positions of power in the government, but they don't act like economic communists at all. The Slimes and Russians want them to be communist with all their heart, but it just ain't so.

4 posted on 10/17/2009 7:47:07 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: PaleoBob

They are beyond ism’s they are into global power, which is an ism not invented yet..


5 posted on 10/17/2009 7:52:55 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Whatever it takes. Pragmatism. Though, the truth is, Putin has expert command of KGB-type political tactics and such having come up an agent himself. He has the luxury of not even having to pay lip service to “Marxist” blabber, though. The best of both worlds.


6 posted on 10/17/2009 7:57:10 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

The Chicoms decided it was glorious to get rich by means of hard work and trading with non-communist countries. OK Putin, that’s their secret. Ball in your court.


7 posted on 10/17/2009 8:06:55 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
Nitwits. The culture has to support the form of government. The Chinese are an ancient culture that believes in social harmony first and foremost above all. The people of China accept communism because they personally put the good of society equal to or above their own personal freedom.
8 posted on 10/17/2009 9:33:06 PM PDT by Clock King (There's no way to fix D.C.)
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To: Clock King

I am surprised they haven’t ditched communism and decided to join up for Obamas kumbayah world without nukes. Clearly, they are racists.


9 posted on 10/17/2009 9:41:05 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (Since they call Bush, "Dubya" then I must insist on calling Barry, "Hussein" *2009=1984 on steroids*)
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To: Navy Patriot
"China is not economically communist, they are very close to capitalist, that's why their economy works..."

Communist China's economy "works" because America and the West stupidly prop it up.

10 posted on 10/17/2009 9:45:01 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: StormEye

I think it’s the other way around - it’s the Chinese that are borrowing the money to US, and giving their goods in exchange for, essentially, promise to be paid back one day.


11 posted on 10/18/2009 3:49:33 AM PDT by RolandOfGilead
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To: Sidebar Moderator; Admin Moderator

Would you please, change the title of this thread. It somehow messed up.

It should read

Russia’s

Thank-you


12 posted on 10/18/2009 6:59:01 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: StormEye
Communist China's economy "works" because America and the West stupidly prop it up.

That statement must be expressed in the past tense to make it completely true. Additionally it should be refined to specify liberal socialist DemoRat politicians (Carter, Clinton, Feinstein, et al) as the Americans primarily responsible, although Republicans also participated. As far as the "West", pretty much they have always hated through envy, the United States, and coddle all those nations that will stick a finger in America's eye, no surprise there.

In fact, China's economy and economic policy DOES work.

They protect capitalists and availability of resources (for an affordable fee), punish labor, and severely punish refusal to work. Unions in China do exactly the opposite of what they do in the US. Finally they do not parasite the profit to the point that the capitalist looks elsewhere to build his factory.

The Chinese in charge are not stupid, as you assert the Americans and the West are, they have observed communism and how well it works worldwide, and have decided they want to be rich capitalists that don't even have to assume the risk of capitalist investment.

Lastly, who owns who?

13 posted on 10/18/2009 8:41:01 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

the Russian Communist Party is a controlled opposition party. Essentially they are part of United Russia. And Putin has said some very strange and disturbing things at their conventions about the West and what he plans to do with it.


14 posted on 10/19/2009 5:57:56 AM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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