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Poll: Mexicans say Mexican-Americans Owe Loyalty to Mexico Over U.S.
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/55496 ^

Posted on 10/15/2009 11:51:17 AM PDT by chessplayer

(CNSNews.com) - Nearly 70 percent of Mexicans surveyed said that Mexican-Americans – including those born in the United States – owe their primary loyalty to Mexico, not the U.S., according to a Zogby poll commissioned by the Center for Immigration Studies.

“In Mexico, Mexicans overwhelmingly – especially those who have family here (in the U.S. )– overwhelmingly say that it (amnesty) would encourage illegal immigration in the future.”

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2009polls; amnesty; aztlan; gohome; gtfo; gthoomc; illegalaliens; importingsocialism; loyalty; mexicanamericans; mexico; sourcetitlenoturl
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1 posted on 10/15/2009 11:51:17 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer
Mexican-Americans – including those born in the United States – owe their primary loyalty to Mexico

Then they should go there and be loyal.

Wholesale, in buses without air conditioning.

2 posted on 10/15/2009 11:54:34 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

So 70% of Mexicans are openly admitting that even if granted US citizenship, they would maintain their loyalty (over the US) to Mexico.


3 posted on 10/15/2009 11:58:48 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

The reason our elected officials are so eager for more and more Mexicans is because they know Mexicans are loyal to their own and could give a rip for non-Mexicans. Mexicans also have never thrown off the tyranny of socialism so as long as something for free (provided by taxpayer who Mexicans view as suckers) they will continue to vote for the lefty (i.e., Democrat).

The reason for Republics giving in so easy? Hey, they’re hoping for leftovers.


4 posted on 10/15/2009 11:59:01 AM PDT by BertWheeler (Dance and the World Dances With You!)
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To: humblegunner

They need to go home in non air-conditioned busses and experience the richness of their culture, for example the lack of food inspectors and the lush awesomeness of foodborne diseases.


5 posted on 10/15/2009 11:59:44 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns
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To: chessplayer

....no surprise here....they don’t want to assimilate into American culture...they just want the benefits that the Anglo-European/Judeo-Christian culture gives them.


6 posted on 10/15/2009 12:00:29 PM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: humblegunner

“Vitter: Reid wants illegals counted in the Census”

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/15/vitter-reid-wants-illegals-counted-in-the-census/


7 posted on 10/15/2009 12:00:52 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer
So called “Mexican Americans” are not American in any sense if they profess allegiance to Mexico.

They are, by definition, Mexicans, and they belong there!

8 posted on 10/15/2009 12:01:20 PM PDT by HardStarboard ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule - Mencken knew Obama)
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To: chessplayer

Me thinks this may explain our collapsing American culture.


9 posted on 10/15/2009 12:01:22 PM PDT by rjones42
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To: chessplayer

so, keep the 19.7%, educate the 11.5%, and send the 68.8% packing!


10 posted on 10/15/2009 12:03:31 PM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., hot enough down there today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: chessplayer; All

A message from Mike Cutler about this article:

Hi Gang:

As you probably know, the administration and members of Congress in both houses are making it abundantly clear that no matter how many times a great majority of the citizens of the United States have made it crystal clear that they want our nation’s border secured and that they do not want illegal aliens to be given amnesty under the aegis of a program such as that which is called for under the terms of “Comprehensive Immigration Reform,” that they will press on with this program.

I am also quite certain that you know how adamantly I have been opposed to any such massive amnesty program for a number of reasons, beginning with my concerns about national security- to put it succinctly, there is no way that the beleaguered agency that would have to administer this ill-conceived program, USCIS (United States Citizenship and Immigration Services) could handle the massive workload that would be created.

In fact, a string of reports issued by the investigative arm of Congress, the General Accountability Office (GAO) and by the OIG, the Office of the Inspector General, the government agency that is charged with investigating allegation of nonfeasance, misfeasance and malfeasance have made it absolutely clear that USCIS demonstrates incompetence, ineptitude and, on occasion out-right corruption in its day to day work today. How in blazes could this agency run a program in which they would have to most likely process an minimum of an additional 100,000 applications each and every day, filed by illegal aliens who are euphemistically referred to “undocumented,” providing this illegal aliens with lawful status in our country and hence with official identity documents even though there is no way of readily determining the true identities of these millions of illegal aliens?

If an illegal alien who ran our nation’s border provides a false name, it is a virtual certainty that this background check would not pose a problem for the criminal or terrorist seeking lawful status in our country as an embedding tactic. This is precisely how most of the terrorists have been found to operate- they seek to gain lawful status to eliminate the potential threat that they might be discovered. They also want that lawful status to gain employment and a driver’s license. Remember, as I have often noted, including when I have testified before Congress, a day or two before a terrorist participates in a terrorist attack he (she) is likely to hide in plain sight by going to his (her) job!

Now we have the Zogby Poll as reported on by Steve Camarota, the Director of Research at the Center for Immigration Studies, making it clear that citizens of Mexico would be encouraged to seek to violate our nation’s borders to enter the United States to seek unlawful employment. As you may know, I have been affiliated with the Center for Immigration Studies for about 7 years.

Here is something for you to consider. If an alien runs our borders he leaves no record as to when, where or how he entered the United States. This means that aliens could easily enter our country long after any cutoff date that a Comprehensive Immigration Reform program might establish and fraudulently claim to have been in the United States for the requisite period of time.

Again, remember that there is no way of knowing the true identity of these millions of illegal aliens.

If you doubt this- look at the Zogby Poll results. Millions of citizens of Mexico and many other countries would, no doubt swarm our borders seeking to fraudulently claim to have resided in the United States for the requisite period of time. The bureaucratic system would implode, crushed by the weight of the paper!

Those of you who are familiar with my commentaries know how much I love to use analogies, so here is something I hope helps you to visualize precisely what I am describing:

All of us are familiar with how people will attempt to cram themselves into a completely full elevator car even though another car with quickly open its doors a few feet away. In the worst case, the car into which these human sardines are attempting to wedge themselves will also return in just a few minutes, yet you could easily imagine that the elevator car they are so eager to enter will be the last one to ever show up!

If too many people do get into that elevator it may get stuck or, worse, it might plummet to the basement!

For the would-be illegal aliens the pressure to get across the U.S. border would be truly intense. These aliens know that they must make it across the border in order to file for amnesty. If they make it, they would then be allowed to bring their families to the United States legally! Not unlike that overcrowded elevator, the immigration systems would be so overwhelmed that any semblance of integrity would simply evaporate. In a manner of speaking, the entire system, I fear, would crash and burn!

Imagine the chaos on the border! I cannot imagine what the conditions would be like for our Border Patrol Agents!

Meanwhile consider these bullet points:

“An overwhelming majority (69 percent) of people in Mexico thought that the primary loyalty of Mexican-Americans (Mexico- and U.S.-born) should be to Mexico. Just 20 percent said it should be to the United States. The rest were unsure. “

“Also, 69 percent of people in Mexico felt that the Mexican government should represent the interests of Mexican-Americans (Mexico- and U.S.-born) in the United States.”

Think of the implications that this has for our nation!

If that statement is accurate, I am concerned that we could easily wind up with millions of voters who would vote for candidates that were viewed as being important to Mexico’s objectives rather than the objectives of the United States!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2362258/posts?page=27#27


11 posted on 10/15/2009 12:03:38 PM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: chessplayer

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2363262/posts#comment


12 posted on 10/15/2009 12:05:05 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: BertWheeler

Two things I thought I would never see. The downfall of the Soviet Union, and the downfall of the US. Saw the first part,,,looks like I will see the second part too.


13 posted on 10/15/2009 12:07:16 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Can someone please explain why anyone would hold a loyalty to a nation that so disrespected them, that it encouraged them to flee?

Anything short of the Stockholm Syndrome just won’t explain this one.


14 posted on 10/15/2009 12:08:41 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Deficit spending, trade deficits, unsecure mortages, worthless paper... ... not a problem. Oh yeah?)
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Years ago they should have gone after the employers who hire the illegals.

As long as people hire them as housekeepers, gardners, construction, meatpacker plants, etc. this will go on.

The problem now, there are over 12 million illegals here.
Who will hire the tens of thousands of people it will take to scour dozens of states block by block, canyons, etc to
round up over 12 million illegals.

How doesn this go down with Liberal MSM following the rondup people and piling thousands in trucks to haul away,
load on c 47s by the thousands to fly back to Mexico
to only return the next month.
It ain’t going to happen.

The fence that should have gone up years ago will not be conpleated. They are pulling back the Border Patrol.
The ROE for Border Patrol is a joke.

I say this sitting 20 miles north of the largest and busiest border crossing in the world, San Diego - Tijuana Port of entry.


15 posted on 10/15/2009 12:10:48 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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“Who will hire the tens of thousands of people it will take to scour dozens of states block by block, canyons, etc to
round up over 12 million illegals.”

Oh, please. Next time they’re marching in our streets, demanding we ignore the rule of law...DEPORT THEM!


16 posted on 10/15/2009 12:13:28 PM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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17 posted on 10/15/2009 12:15:23 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

bttt


18 posted on 10/15/2009 12:16:00 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: DoughtyOne
Can someone please explain why anyone would hold a loyalty to a nation that so disrespected them, that it encouraged them to flee?

Because a corrupt government isn't the people that make up the nation.

Do you feel disrespected by the current administration? If so, I'm sure you still love your country. You can hate the conditions and love the people, the land and the culture.

19 posted on 10/15/2009 12:16:12 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney: Would you buy a used car from this man?)
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To: chessplayer

yeah, we figured that part out a couple of years ago when they were marching around with Mexican flags


20 posted on 10/15/2009 12:18:12 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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