This is a 60's vintage round.
Posted on 10/12/2009 12:27:47 PM PDT by GL of Sector 2814
Sacramento, CA – Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger signed into law legislation that will help law enforcement officials track down and apprehend armed criminals and other prohibited persons. AB 962 by Assembly Member Kevin DeLeon (D-Los Angeles) had the support of law enforcement officials from across the state and was modeled after successful city ordinances, including the cities of Sacramento and Los Angeles. AB 962 was the Brady Campaign´s top priority bill in this year´s legislature.
The law requires maintenance of purchaser records by handgun ammunition vendors. Local law enforcement can use these records to find illegal guns.
"The purchase records will provide our police officers with yet another tool to track down and apprehend armed and dangerous criminals," said Paul Helmke, President of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.
The new law also requires the safe storage of handgun ammunition in stores and that all handgun ammunition sales be completed in face-to-face transactions. Sacramento and Los Angeles have had great success over the last few years with similar city ordinances. "Law enforcement officials in both cities have had great success in tracking down violent criminals who purchased ammunition in Sacramento and Los Angeles," said Ellen Boneparth, President of the California Brady Campaign Chapters. "Our California Brady Chapters were instrumental in urging cities to pass the local ordinances and getting strong support statewide for AB 962."
A 2006 study by the Rand Corporation on Los Angeles´ city ordinance showed 10,050 rounds of ammunition were purchased by prohibited persons in a period of just two months. The study concluded "…monitoring ammunition transactions may help reduce the supply of ammunition to criminals and the frequency of injuries from felonious gun assaults. Such a record can also provide information for generating leads on illegal firearm possession."
I’ve shot paper hull shotshells from the 30’s and most of it functioned fine. About a 10% failure rate for the stuff I had. The plastic stuff should hold up better, doesn’t attract moisture the way the paper hulls and fiber wads did.
Thanks for the info. I was also wondering whether to store shotgun shells vertically (upright) or horizontally when storing long term. Plastic (even seemingly hard plastic) has elastic properties that might cause deformation over time. I'm guessing that vertical storage is preferable, but that's only a guess.
Ahnold could not have been elected without the support of the GOP and the voters of California.
Some of us backed Tom McClintock, but a lot of folks around these parts told us that McClintock was unelectable.
This is what we get from 'electable' Republicans.
This is also why complaints about Obama fall on deaf ears.
Yes, I know, I have thought of that. One of the most obvious, and one that was defined as handgun ammo before, is the .22 rimfires. Too bad for people with lever action cowboy rifles that shoot .44 mag and other pistol rounds. No more competition for them in CA unless they reload and I haven’t been able to read about the reloading aspect of this idiotic law yet. I suppose Arnold will sign the other ammo bill also. What a jerk he is.
I would bet they will, eventually, use checkpoints and search your vehicle (I lived in such a place a long time ago... they considered beef a smuggled item into the State/Province, all set up for taxing).
Yeah, someone reminded me of the paper hulls. I was thinking of the older military-issue shells (because nobody thought that paper hulls were a good idea in a wet, muddy battlefield) which are the most likely older shotgun shell that one is likely to encounter in significant quantity.
Fortunately, they’re still making the brass and steel hulled shells, so you can actually reload for a shotgun.
Ahnold is living proof that if the GOP is backing a candidate, watch your back.
Arnold needs a brick upside his head.
Decades.......I recently bot some ammo that is near 50 years old...and goes bang every time.
Ditto for motorcycles. I carted my 2009 Suzuki DR650SE with me to San Diego. I was purchased in August 2008. It arrived with 880 miles on the odometer. After riding around after work and trying a commute 35 miles one way on the freeway, I deemed it unsatisfactory for a daily commuter. I had 1300 miles on the odometer and wanted to trade it in on a 2009 Kawasaki Versys. No way. It can't be registered or sold until it has 7500+ miles on the odometer if purchased out of state. The dealer arranged to cart the bike out of state to an auction and I got $3500 for a bike that had cost me about $5800 at that point in the game. The Versys is doing what I need as a commuter, but I took a terrible bath due to asinine CA laws.
In retrospect, I could have just kept the DR650SE and purchased a used VStar 650 for about $3900 on Craig's list. It would have been perfectly satisfactory.
“Arnold is living proof that we as a nation are NOT careful enough about who we let immigrate to this country.”
quoted for truth.
WHAT IF THEY STEAL THE AMMO?
It could also be argued that in retrospect, moving to California was not the brightest idea anyone ever had...
Since that time the legislature has worked to circumvent the will of the people. they are succeeding.
I’m a native Californian thinking of moving out of this hell hole.
Didn’t this clown say a few weeks ago he wasn’t going to sign this bill?
You all don’t have to put up with this crap in CA.
Just store them in their boxes. I've got early plastic hull shells that look and function like new. If anything the old Western Mark V shells were heat sealed at the center of the crimp and were particularly mositure proof. If you are concerned, primer sealant is available. A drop at the center of the crimp would seal that entry too. Since I reload hulls a bunch of times (10+), sometimes the crimp doesn't seal enough to keep the small shot in, a drop of candle wax does the trick.
Nope. Not after Feb 1, 2011.
The federal definition of ammunition includes its components. Even ammo for pre -1890 pistols is covered unless it's not readily available through commercial channels.
So.... you can mail order components to produce 44cal. rim fire for your Remington but you'll have to purchase 45LC ammunition components for the same gun in person.
I have a feeeling there is more than a few shares of solar companies.. wouldn't want to miss out on all the green tech growth he has been pushing , yaknow.. the stuff Soros is itching to profit from as well.
This is a 60's vintage round.
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