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Michael Moore Tries to Out-Church Sean Hannity
US News & World Report ^ | October 07, 2009 | Dan Gilgoff

Posted on 10/08/2009 1:52:51 PM PDT by presidio9

Promoting Capitalism: A Love Story, Michael Moore is beating the drum of his Catholicism in a way that he hasn't previously. Check out this clip from Moore's appearance last night on Sean Hannity's TV show.

When Hannity suggests possible political labels for Moore, the filmmaker responds: "Christian." Then Moore quizzes the Fox News host, a fellow Catholic, on the last time he's been to mass. Trying to out-church him, Moore implies that Hannity is fibbing about having attended mass last weekend.

It's no accident that Moore's new openness about his religious faith is coming now, after the Democratic Party has spent five years urging its members to speak up about their faith to combat the conventional wisdom that the GOP is more religion-friendly. That campaign has spilled over to the broader liberal movement in a big way. But if Moore, Barack Obama, and Nancy Pelosi are all spokespeople for the left's faith-friendliness, where's the national leader of the left's fast-growing secular wing?

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: capitalism; catholicism; cinoism; hannity; michaelmoore; moore; religiousleft
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1 posted on 10/08/2009 1:52:51 PM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9

Getting all ‘churchy’ is the latest facade. Notice all the libtards quoting scripture before Zero’s elections? Sarandon’s “Jesus was a community organizer” crap, etc., etc.


2 posted on 10/08/2009 1:55:06 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear ('They're drinking the juice.'~ Barack H. Obama)
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To: presidio9

Sorry. I’m not going to watch. Michael Moore is a buffoon, and Hannity turns himself into one too by giving Moore a platform.


3 posted on 10/08/2009 1:55:45 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: presidio9

Yeah Michael Moore is about as Christian as Barack Obama. Always good to label your brand of leftist crap with a theological label


4 posted on 10/08/2009 1:55:46 PM PDT by the long march
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To: presidio9

Michael Moore has been in a church? Could have fooled me.


5 posted on 10/08/2009 1:56:24 PM PDT by madison10
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
Getting all ‘churchy’ is the latest facade.

I actually find it funny. Ask a lib who in the Bible said "And ye shall be like gods." The responses are quite laughable.

6 posted on 10/08/2009 1:56:33 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: pnh102

The only fragment of Scripture most lefties have memorized is “Judge not lest ye be judged”.


7 posted on 10/08/2009 2:00:14 PM PDT by DManA
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To: presidio9

hannity did a sloppy job in that interview


8 posted on 10/08/2009 2:01:03 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: presidio9

I’m not sure that Michael Moore is on board with all the moral teachings of the Church (what rabid Democrats are?). I do believe Hannity has also said some rather unsound things on artifical contraception...


9 posted on 10/08/2009 2:01:05 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: DManA

And most of them think “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need” is gospel.


10 posted on 10/08/2009 2:01:23 PM PDT by DManA
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To: presidio9

ok
Michael Moore I have an idea for you. Make a movie showing how wonderful religion is and counter Bill Maher’s Religulous.


11 posted on 10/08/2009 2:03:44 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Fiscal conservatism without social conservatism is dead.)
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To: dalebert

Sloppy is being very nice. Hannity was made to look like a fool because he allowed Fat Bastard to derail the discussion and take control of it.


12 posted on 10/08/2009 2:04:19 PM PDT by Double Tap
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To: presidio9

Michael Moore was on Sean Hannity’s program?


13 posted on 10/08/2009 2:07:11 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: madison10
Michael Moore has been in a church?

He heard about the free bread and wine.

14 posted on 10/08/2009 2:07:32 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: presidio9

Christianity is why the West cannot kick the socialist habit.

Christianity demonizes worldliness, riches, and achievement, while extolling deprivation, humiliation, and sacrifices for causes “greater than self.” Socialists take the Christians up on this and do so without hypocrisy.

McCain and Palin spent 2008 chanting “Country First.” The Democrats agreed, and are now nationalizing everything. There’s a book out there titled “Jesus Rode a Donkey” — on the economic issues, I don’t have a counter-reply. Republicans sympathetic to freedom act as if Jesus refused the cross, proclaiming “hell no, go die for your own damn sins!”

Yup. Look forward to bigger and badder Marxists in our future. At least there is hope for the Indians and Chinese— the Hindus worship Lakshmi, the goddess of wealth, while the Chinese now believe that “to get rich is glorious.”


15 posted on 10/08/2009 2:08:27 PM PDT by JHBowden (Keep the Change!)
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To: JHBowden

Christianity is what made the West in the first place.


17 posted on 10/08/2009 2:10:52 PM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed Imposter")
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Moore actually made Hannity his stooge for the whole interview. Sometimes Sean is in over his little head and doesn’t know the right answers.


18 posted on 10/08/2009 2:10:56 PM PDT by stockpirate ("I came NOT to bring peace but a sword." - Jesus Christ)
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To: dalebert

Hannity just doesn’t despise these creeps as much as they deserve, as much as he would if he truly understood what they are trying to do to this country.


19 posted on 10/08/2009 2:11:49 PM PDT by skeeter (Pterocarya fraxinifolia)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
Moore's Catholicism is the Liberation Theology form of Catholicism, the Jesus was a community organizer type. Actually, they consider the apostle, Paul to have been the best community organizer of all time. They don't believe that Jesus was the actual son of God, but a figural son of God, who was a great community organizer and teacher, not much different than the Muslim approach to Jesus.

If you recall, Barack Obama, in one of his religious apologia speeches, said that he believed that Jesus was the son of God, but that he didn't know about "all that supernatural stuff." He said that he didn't really believe in all that.

I saw the part of the Moore interview where he started asking Hannity about being a Catholic. Hannity turned it around and asked Moore if he was a socialist. Then he asked about Moore's net worth and whether, as a socialist, he thought that was fair. I didn't hear Moore's answer, but I did notice that Moore hesitated and couldn't answer right away.

20 posted on 10/08/2009 2:11:53 PM PDT by Eva (Obama bin Lyin)
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To: JHBowden
Christianity demonizes worldliness, riches, and achievement, while extolling deprivation, humiliation, and sacrifices for causes “greater than self.”

This is a twisted reading of the scriptures.

Not that I disagree with your point that the gospel has been used - misinterpreted, IMO - for personal gain. That is painfully obvious.

21 posted on 10/08/2009 2:15:40 PM PDT by skeeter (Pterocarya fraxinifolia)
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To: DManA

“The only fragment of Scripture most lefties have memorized is “Judge not lest ye be judged”.”
________

We should all know that one. It’s pretty important.


22 posted on 10/08/2009 2:15:53 PM PDT by awake-n-angry
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To: afraidfortherepublic

You are RIGHT!!!! Two schmoos! or is it two schlmiels?


23 posted on 10/08/2009 2:15:59 PM PDT by Jan Hus
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To: Unam Sanctam

The most telling response to Marxist Christianity is that Jesus enjoined Christians to follow when he said “Whatever you do for thwe least of my Brothers, you do unto Me.” The you, while addressed to Christians was addressed to them as individuals not groups, empires, or governments. The You is decidedly singular in meaning. There is no place registered for any of us in God’s eyes because we have voted to take the wealth of others without their consent in order to do what we belioeve is God’s work


24 posted on 10/08/2009 2:17:04 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (atement)
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To: JHBowden
Christianity is why the West cannot kick the socialist habit.

White people are why the West cannot kick the socialist habit. I don't understand the point you are trying to make.

25 posted on 10/08/2009 2:18:48 PM PDT by presidio9 ("Don't shoot. Let 'em burn.")
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To: skeeter

The Gospels are rarely interpreted for personal gain — that would be too good to be true!

No, the Gospels are interpreted to encourage personal *sacrifice* — that’s why a rich man can’t get into heaven, we should turn the other cheek, ignore our families and follow the Lord, etc. etc. If I’m conceiving Christianity falsely, then Christians believe the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross is an ignoble, wicked thing. But we both know this isn’t the case.


26 posted on 10/08/2009 2:21:37 PM PDT by JHBowden (Keep the Change!)
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To: madison10

Given all the deceased and wounded Soldiers that Moore has defamed in order to get some cash for himself, I am surprised the worthless democrat bastard didn’t burst into flames at the entrance to the church.


27 posted on 10/08/2009 2:21:44 PM PDT by GI Joe Fan (GI Joe represents Real American Heroes, not a bunch of globalist drones.)
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To: presidio9
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28 posted on 10/08/2009 2:21:55 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: JHBowden
that’s why a rich man can’t get into heaven

Where does it say that?

29 posted on 10/08/2009 2:26:51 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: madison10; Unam Sanctam

It would not suprise me at all if Michael Moore went to Mass. However, you can either believe that some abortions are not the same thing as murder or you can be a Catholic, but not both.


30 posted on 10/08/2009 2:27:22 PM PDT by presidio9 ("Don't shoot. Let 'em burn.")
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Read the parable of the young rich man, Matthew 19:16-28.


31 posted on 10/08/2009 2:29:14 PM PDT by JHBowden (Keep the Change!)
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To: JHBowden
If you were familiar with the scriptures you'd know Christ was addressing what is in a man's heart, not his pocket. And that we should consider others before ourselves. Does that offend you?

Nowhere does he imply its a sin to be rich, that we should abandon our families, etc.

And apparently you've missed the point of his sacrifice on our behalf entirely. Thats not unusual - very many have.

32 posted on 10/08/2009 2:29:40 PM PDT by skeeter (Pterocarya fraxinifolia)
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To: presidio9

he used to put stink bombs in the incense burners when he was an alter boy at St. John’s in Davison


33 posted on 10/08/2009 2:31:51 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: DManA

Apparently Hannity has memorized it to: cf. the video at 0:58.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usTWwSbpWRc


34 posted on 10/08/2009 2:31:56 PM PDT by Poe White Trash (Wake up!)
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To: presidio9

Moore’s a communist. Commies detest religion, especially Christianity.


35 posted on 10/08/2009 2:33:13 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: JHBowden

He says it is difficult, not impossible. The young rich man was asking, obliquely, what he could give to Jesus in order to recieve eternal life. Jesus response was that it couldn’t be bought, but that by selling everything and giving it away he could accept the gift of eternal life without feeling like he “deserved” it by giving Jesus something.

The love of money, not money itself, is what Jesus was pointing out to the young man as the obstacle to salvation.


36 posted on 10/08/2009 2:34:42 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: skeeter

“And that we should consider others before ourselves. Does that offend you?”

I’m not a socialist. In many cases, we should consider ourselves before we consider others.

In fairness to JC, he does say to love others *as you love yourself*, so he’s not a pure altruist like Auguste Comte.


37 posted on 10/08/2009 2:35:05 PM PDT by JHBowden (Keep the Change!)
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To: JHBowden
Um..m, I believe that passage does not disparage riches, so long as you have them (not the other way around). I think the passage also refers to those who “trust in riches,” (in other passages (who believe “they can be like God”), as in what we accomplish and acquire is due to our “God-like” ability to create and control.

The reason socialism is so attractive to the world, the reason liberation theology, the reason communism have made so many inroads in society is due to mankind trusting in himself and not the One who set the universe in motion.

That's why a rich man won't be able to buy his way into heaven, he trusted in his wealth — not in the God who gave it to him. Hoarding wealth when good can be done to ease the burdens of others, is also a way of damming up the system of prosperity. We are to be alike a river flowing out to the nations.

38 posted on 10/08/2009 2:36:27 PM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: JHBowden
I’m not a socialist. In many cases, we should consider ourselves before we consider others.

Only socialists can be considerate spouses, good friends, and concerned citizens?

You make the democrats case against us.

39 posted on 10/08/2009 2:39:49 PM PDT by skeeter (Pterocarya fraxinifolia)
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To: DManA
And most of them think “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need” is gospel.

I just got that same line from a Social Studies teacher I know, he is Mormon. I just shake my head and cry, because there is no talking to them. He actually had that screed on his blackboard.

40 posted on 10/08/2009 2:41:08 PM PDT by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

I am so surprised that Moore is a Catholic.
I hope he goes to confession about the lying he does in his so-called documentaries.

Hannity on the other hand doesn’t seem to know that abortion is always wrong.

He also needs some churching.


41 posted on 10/08/2009 2:41:37 PM PDT by Not gonna take it anymore
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To: JHBowden
The parable of the rich man WASN"T about the wealth the rich man had. The rich man came to Jesus, pretty sure he had EARNED his way there. When Jesus told him what to DO, he said I've done that. Jesus knew what was in the mans heart, and what the man was getting at. He knew that the man valued his money over all else. So he told the man to give his money to the poor.

Also, Jesus said a rich man COULDN'T get to heaven, he said it was easier for a camel to get through the eye of the needle than for a rich man to enter heaven.

Meaning its hard, not impossible.

42 posted on 10/08/2009 2:43:15 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: JHBowden
Christianity demonizes worldliness, riches, and achievement, while extolling deprivation, humiliation, and sacrifices for causes “greater than self.” Socialists take the Christians up on this and do so without hypocrisy

What B$, Catholics maybe, but not most Protestants. And of course as I stated elsewhere at least one Mormon I know.

43 posted on 10/08/2009 2:43:45 PM PDT by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: presidio9
Commie liar Moore also said to Hannity yesterday that he cared about our troops in Iraq.

Michael Moore (quote), from his website, April 14, 2004...

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"The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not 'insurgents' or 'terrorists' or 'The Enemy.' They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow -- and they will win. Get it, Mr. Bush?"
[actual quote from Michael Moore (2004). It still appears on his website]
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?messageDate=2004-04-14

44 posted on 10/08/2009 2:44:01 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: JHBowden
that’s why a rich man can’t get into heaven

Come on show you knowledge of the Bible, give us a scripture reference on that statement.

Don't bother there isn't one.

45 posted on 10/08/2009 2:47:45 PM PDT by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: presidio9
Yeah, Jeremiah Wright is a "Christian" too.

I'm just sayin' I wouldn't want to be in the Wright/Moore line on Judgement Day.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

46 posted on 10/08/2009 2:48:02 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: Not gonna take it anymore

Like I told someone else on this thread, Moore is Liberation Theology type of Catholic. Liberation theology was designed to take parts of Catholicism and use it as a community organizing tool. They take the parts that they can twist to their agenda and use it in the Saul Alinsky method of making Christians live up to their own rules and values. The Black Liberation Theology was an off shoot of the Catholic Liberation Theology of South America. The Jesus was a community organizer came from that.


47 posted on 10/08/2009 2:55:35 PM PDT by Eva (Obama bin Lyin)
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To: Not gonna take it anymore
Michael (and Sean, for that matter) came up during the time when catechism was not taught. My age group (1949) was about the last group to receive traditional catechism. It would be difficult for them to add anything to the debate. If you wanted to hear a debate on the shortcomings of liberation theology, or the reason communism is not Catholicism, Sean would have been better served by having John Corapi do the interview, or at least moderate it.

Those who came up just after us received nothing but Kumbaya and New Age, hippy-dippy, anything goes training. It is no wonder the two sounded like Dumb and Dumber.

48 posted on 10/08/2009 2:58:48 PM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: presidio9

It’s part of the Obama-Kmiec strategy to divide Catholics. Moore fits in with the “Obama-Catholics” who claim that Obama is more in tune with “Catholic Social Teaching” because he (and Monsieur Moore) cares about the poor and the conservatives only care about aborted fetuses; besides conservatives are capitalists, capitalism hates the poor, Catholics can’t be capitalists.

If Obama’s people can succeed in synchronizing “Catholicism” with “Liberalism” and making “Catholicism” and “Conservatism” mutually exclusive, they will be able to hold on to enough “Catholics” (mostly the ones not paying much attention, but also the lib-Caths who are paying attention) to keep winning.

At least that’s their strategy. To do it they need stooges like Kmiec but may have failed sufficiently to be scraping the bottom of the barrel and thus entrusted Fatso Moore with an Ambassadorship to the Wingnut Catholics.

That being said, Hannity would be more credible in his claims to be a good Catholic if he’d actually learn a bit about why the Church opposes contraception. (It lies behind all the social pathologies, divorce, absent fathers etc.) If Hannity could be bothered to learn a bit about his Catholic faith, he would realize he could actually follow the Church here and still be consistent with his social convinctions, but he’s too obtuse to realize it, so he trumpets his dissent on this point.


49 posted on 10/08/2009 2:59:53 PM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Double Tap
Sloppy is being very nice. Hannity was made to look like a fool because he allowed Fat Bastard to derail the discussion and take control of it.

Well said...Sean only knows how to regurgitate talking points. Has he ever had an original thought?

50 posted on 10/08/2009 3:00:01 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
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