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ACORN Saga: Founder Wade Rathke Wants YOU To Go on Welfare (interview w/Rathke on Fox now)
BigGovernment.com ^ | September 29, 2009 | Matthew Vadum

Posted on 10/02/2009 6:14:47 PM PDT by khnyny

Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) founder Wade Rathke wants to use the Internet to overthrow the capitalist system.

He said so in his new book, Citizen Wealth: Winning the Campaign to Save Working Families, in which he serves up some community organizing war stories, and offers his thoughts on the future of organizing. Rathke’s currently on a cross-country book tour.

Rathke, a pioneer of the so-called welfare rights movement that aims to get Americans on welfare, devotes an entire chapter of his book to what he calls “The ‘Maximum Eligible Participation’ Solution.” It is a strategy for orchestrated crisis that savvy leftist groups across America are likely to embrace. He writes:

“[I]t is hard to believe that we cannot assemble the troops to mount a campaign for maximum eligible participation that harvests the opportunities and dollars already available if we could achieve full utilization of existing programs.”

Rathke acknowledges his support for the Cloward-Piven Strategy, an approach to radical social and political change articulated by Marxist university professors Richard A. Cloward and Frances Fox Piven in a 1966 Nation article, “The Weight of the Poor: A Strategy to End Poverty.” The two academics called for “a massive drive to recruit the poor onto the welfare rolls” in an effort to overwhelm the system. [Italics in original.]

The strategy helped to bankrupt New York City in 1975. Years later, the Big Apple’s mayor, Rudy Giuliani, denounced the academic activists by name. “This wasn’t an accident,” Giuliani argued in a 1997 speech. “It wasn’t an atmospheric thing, it wasn’t supernatural. This is the result of policies and programs designed to have the maximum number of people get on welfare.”

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: acorn; agenda; democrats; guiliani; rathke; waderathke; welfare; whatsupfrmod

1 posted on 10/02/2009 6:14:47 PM PDT by khnyny
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To: khnyny

At least this would explain the Democrats push for illegal immigrants to be given amnesty, to swell the welfare rolls and break the system.


2 posted on 10/02/2009 6:19:55 PM PDT by whitedog57
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To: khnyny

Where’s Hannity?


3 posted on 10/02/2009 6:21:22 PM PDT by nhwingut (The media's love affair with Obama reminds me of a dog humping a telephone pole.)
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To: khnyny

Wow. Criminal money stalkers and creeps trying to grow the ranks of badly advised people.

This is sick and is becoming a terror threat.

They will march us and ourselves to the communist death march of self-betrayal.

Never surrender to these creeps. The “Bataan Death” march means that surrender to government or anything as retarded of stupid empowered force is automatic death.

Better fight for life. We get a chance there at least.


4 posted on 10/02/2009 6:21:36 PM PDT by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: khnyny
A charismatic and affable commie, but a red is a red.

Maybe he'll do a Horowitz and come back from the dark side, he would be effective.

5 posted on 10/02/2009 6:22:04 PM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: whitedog57

Bingo. This language is the #1 threat, and Democrates themselves go with it.


6 posted on 10/02/2009 6:22:28 PM PDT by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: khnyny

I’ve been listening.

ACORN opposing living wages for their workers while fighting for it elswhere. ACORN in trouble for putting down unionization of ACORN employees.

Same ole same ole with ACORN.


7 posted on 10/02/2009 6:25:58 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: khnyny

Just as ugly on the outside as he is on the inside.
What wicked, cruel and evil folk we are all getting to meet, thanks to this administration!


8 posted on 10/02/2009 6:26:26 PM PDT by ozark hilljilly (Ignore us at your peril.)
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To: Rome2000

Yeah, that was my take on it too. This guy is good and part of me thinks he really believes this crap. So, is Rathke the idealist who wants justice for the poor or is he an opportunist?

History and human nature tell us that what these people are attempting to do is anathema to the human spirit and doesn’t help the poor or anyone else.


9 posted on 10/02/2009 6:27:43 PM PDT by khnyny
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To: whitedog57

Let me see here. Back in 1966 - 1971 when I was in grade school and people had much less than they do now we had 4 kids out of a class of 100 getting free lunches. And they had to work in the kitchen serving and cleaning up for that. Today 75% of kids much well off than we as a group were then are GIVEN free lunches and everyone thinks it is just wonderful. Heck they even provides free breakfast and lunch during the summer time when school is out. Sick. Think this is part of this commie plan. I do. And it is just a small part. Now a family of 4 that make 88,000 a year get medicaid. This is stupid.


10 posted on 10/02/2009 6:28:30 PM PDT by therut
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To: FlingWingFlyer; altair; stephenjohnbanker; little jeremiah; ~Kim4VRWC's~; voteNRA; mkjessup; ...
ACORN Ping!

FReep mail me if you want on/off the list.


11 posted on 10/02/2009 6:28:31 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (A mob of one.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Thank you for putting this on your ping list. It was taken out of front page news by the mod.


12 posted on 10/02/2009 6:30:51 PM PDT by khnyny
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To: cripplecreek

I’m telling you, Ms. Kelly is nailing this.


13 posted on 10/02/2009 6:32:24 PM PDT by khnyny
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To: khnyny

Yeah she is. I’m finding out a lot of things that I was unaware of.

Should have planned a live thread for this one.


14 posted on 10/02/2009 6:34:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Just a picture I found while looking into one of my senator's past.

Senator Debbie Stabenow (D-MI) speaks during a Congressional rally held by ACORN on the foreclosure crisis in Washington March 11, 2008.

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15 posted on 10/02/2009 6:36:16 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: cripplecreek

BTTT thanks.


16 posted on 10/02/2009 6:37:20 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (A mob of one.)
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To: khnyny

He’s one freaky looking dude. When they showed a picture of him when he was in his twenties, his head looked like a freaking acorn.


17 posted on 10/02/2009 6:37:41 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: cripplecreek

Yes, a live thread would have been a good idea.

What’s amazing to me is that such an obviously subversive group could have gained such power. How did this happen?


18 posted on 10/02/2009 6:45:12 PM PDT by khnyny
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To: khnyny

Reagan recognized the threat when he was Governor of California. He may not have had their name but he had their number.


19 posted on 10/02/2009 6:46:47 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: jazusamo; dalebert

Ping


20 posted on 10/02/2009 6:47:38 PM PDT by khnyny
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To: khnyny

we have state welfare departments so why are we giving millions to agencies like acorn....all these issues are for states and charities.


21 posted on 10/02/2009 6:59:16 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: whitedog57

Sounds like they’re wanting to take down America by overwhelming our financial system through welfare and lord knows what else.


22 posted on 10/02/2009 7:01:55 PM PDT by GloriaJane (http://www.last.fm/user/GloriaJane)
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To: dalebert
Well, this Big Government piece talks about Rudi Guiliani targeting ACORN.

The strategy helped to bankrupt New York City in 1975. Years later, the Big Apple’s mayor, Rudy Giuliani, denounced the academic activists by name. “This wasn’t an accident,” Giuliani argued in a 1997 speech. “It wasn’t an atmospheric thing, it wasn’t supernatural. This is the result of policies and programs designed to have the maximum number of people get on welfare.”

Take that FR mods.
23 posted on 10/02/2009 7:05:08 PM PDT by khnyny
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To: GloriaJane

Sometimes I view this country as a dog on a leash. The dog can go so far, but then the leash gets pulled. Not entirely a bad thing as long as the entity holding the leash is beneficent.


24 posted on 10/02/2009 7:23:07 PM PDT by khnyny
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To: khnyny

One very telling statement by Rathke at the end of the interview.

He said something about being lucky to have poor people to push the agenda.


25 posted on 10/02/2009 7:24:18 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: khnyny

I watched the program and I was infuriated by the fact that people in Congress knew all along what Acorn was about and did nothing.
I saw Dan Rather on Cavuto yesterday, struggling to say he knows what he had on Bush is correct. Where was the media, before the election of Obama, to do some background checking like Dan Rather and many other news organizations did on Bush.
Good Lord, we are in so much trouble.


26 posted on 10/02/2009 7:40:26 PM PDT by mojo114
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To: cripplecreek

I had to leave to pick up my daughter before getting to see all of this. Is it scheduled to run again?


27 posted on 10/02/2009 7:40:34 PM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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To: cripplecreek
He said something about being lucky to have poor people to push the agenda.

Gee, that was Chavez's strategy.
28 posted on 10/02/2009 7:56:12 PM PDT by khnyny
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To: therut

Sounds like you grew up about the same time I did. If someone had to accept government help back then it was something to be very embarrassed about, almost shameful. Something people would only whisper about. It was considered so demeaning to be on welfare, to not stand on your own two feet. When did it become okay and acceptable to live on the dole? How can we get back to where people people are ashamed to not take care of themselves? I think a big part of this is the breakup of the traditional family, which was another one of the communist party USA’s goal’s. Lots of women with children not being taken care of by their fathers, so that creates a large group of people who are forced on the dole, which as more and more go on it becomes more accepted, not such a social stigma.


29 posted on 10/02/2009 8:05:57 PM PDT by boxlunch
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To: boxlunch

That’s a very insightful comment, imho.

I knew a young lady a long time ago that I worked with, and she told me a story of how she had a son and got welfare for herself and her son, but had to deny that the child’s father was in her life, etc. They had to hide their relationship. She was quite forthright in her story and she herself was an intelligent, attractive African American young lady with loads of potential. She let me know what the system was and how she had to navigate that system.


30 posted on 10/02/2009 8:15:55 PM PDT by khnyny
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To: ozark hilljilly

Exactly. He is a slimy snake, and arrogant, just like this administration....


31 posted on 10/02/2009 8:21:26 PM PDT by gibsosa
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To: gibsosa

Yeah...and Rathke says he doesn’t think he’s ever met Obama....uh huh....they keep separated for OBVIOUS reasons....Rathke is a commie thru and thru, and I’m sure a good friend of Ayers, too.


32 posted on 10/02/2009 8:56:19 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Democrat party has always been the party of slavery, sedition, subversion, socialism and surrender)
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To: khnyny

This is the best (most devastating) thing I’ve seen about ACORN to date.

I hope they broadcast this over and over.


33 posted on 10/02/2009 9:38:38 PM PDT by smokingfrog (No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: khnyny

They’re talking about this now.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2279918/posts


34 posted on 10/02/2009 9:45:48 PM PDT by smokingfrog (No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: smokingfrog

I agree. I can’t believe Rathke was stupid enough to do this interview on Fox. I’m trying to understand his thought process, but I can’t quite get there...


35 posted on 10/02/2009 9:46:47 PM PDT by khnyny
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To: khnyny
ACORN is changing their name to Community Organizations International, so they will probably try to claim that they have cleaned-up the old organization, but will still go on doing the same thing. I'm not sure anyone will ever trust them to do any voter registration again though.
36 posted on 10/02/2009 10:05:25 PM PDT by smokingfrog (No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: khnyny
Rathke’s currently on a cross-country tour promoting his new book that aims to increase the number of Americans on welfare? How ironic.

He's another hypocrite twisted commie who denounces capitalism while profiting from it. What a sick SOB.

37 posted on 10/02/2009 10:13:22 PM PDT by kara2008 (The Answer to 1984 is 1776)
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