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Brezinski Calls for Obama to Shoot Down Israeli Jets; "A Liberty in Reverse"
Weekly Standard ^ | 9/19/09

Posted on 09/20/2009 7:00:12 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker

DB: How aggressive can Obama be in insisting to the Israelis that a military strike might be in America’s worst interest?

Brzezinski: We are not exactly impotent little babies. They have to fly over our airspace in Iraq. Are we just going to sit there and watch?

DB: What if they fly over anyway?

Brzezinski: Well, we have to be serious about denying them that right. That means a denial where you aren’t just saying it. If they fly over, you go up and confront them. They have the choice of turning back or not. No one wishes for this but it could be a Liberty in reverse.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: antisemite; barf; bloggersandpersonal; brzezinski; carteradmin; carteradministration; icg; iran; iraq; israel; mhmmdnsm09202009; mikabrzezinski; msnbc; soros; thirstytree; ussliberty; zbig; zbigniew; zbigniewbrezinski; zbigniewbrzezinski
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1 posted on 09/20/2009 7:00:13 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker
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To: NativeNewYorker

I will bless those who bless Israel, and I will curse those who Curse Israel. If we shoot at Israeli jets, look for the end to America within a generation.


2 posted on 09/20/2009 7:02:13 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9c/TeddyVWad.jpg)
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To: NativeNewYorker

“our” airspace, you ignorant twit?


3 posted on 09/20/2009 7:02:56 AM PDT by safisoft
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To: NativeNewYorker

Sort of like the war in Iraq was ALWAYS Saddam’s choice. After the 16 plus impotent UN resolutions, President Bush gave that horror monger a choice...even on the eve of the invasion, our President STILL gave that dirtbag rapist a choice-and he chose war.


4 posted on 09/20/2009 7:03:38 AM PDT by Republic
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To: NativeNewYorker

Silly Zbigniew, do you really think they will come from that direction? I haven’t had my morning coffee yet, and I can see them flying in from “other” directions. Hm.... Maybe that 10 hrs BiBi was missing didn’t take him to Russia.....


5 posted on 09/20/2009 7:03:53 AM PDT by taildragger (Palin/Mulally 2012)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
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6 posted on 09/20/2009 7:04:56 AM PDT by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: NativeNewYorker

This is exposing the insanity of the Progressive Socialist mentality now controlling our government. I wonder if we can survive the biggest mistake we have ever made. These people are very dangerous to our Liberty and Safety.


7 posted on 09/20/2009 7:05:15 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: NativeNewYorker

Excellent!
That would leave Israel with only the nuclear MRBM option!!


8 posted on 09/20/2009 7:05:22 AM PDT by G Larry ( Obamacare=Dying in Line!)
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To: NativeNewYorker

Obama is far more concerned about what the U.N. thinks of the United States, than the security of the only viable democracy in the Middle East. He will side in every way with the “Israel-haters” — he will try to put the onus on Israel to pacify the very Arab enemies that not only were behind 9/11 (directly and indirectly) -— but continue to fund the Arab shills that carry out the attacks and trouble-making against Israel.

Jimmy Carter on steroids — mixed with some Benedict Arnold and Al Capone.


9 posted on 09/20/2009 7:06:38 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: NativeNewYorker
Zbig, National Security Advisor to none other than America's favorite antisemite, Jimmuh Cahtuh. I recall when these characters were in power. It wasn't pretty.
10 posted on 09/20/2009 7:09:16 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard (truth--the liberal's kryptonite.)
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To: screaminsunshine
I wonder if we can survive the biggest mistake we have ever made.

I'm afraid there are very, very few people who have yet given that possibility its due consideration.

11 posted on 09/20/2009 7:11:04 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( If you have kids, you have no right of privacy that the govt can't flick off your shoulder.)
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To: NativeNewYorker

Related...

http://exposingtheleft.blogspot.com/2009/09/obama-foreign-policy-advisor-suggests.html


12 posted on 09/20/2009 7:11:31 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: MuttTheHoople
look for the end to America within a generation.

Americans already decided to end America.


13 posted on 09/20/2009 7:12:17 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Everyone signing up after Nov 28, 1997 is a newbie.)
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To: safisoft

Yeah, I rolled over when I saw that comment about “our airspace”. Look at it this way, this clown was a national security advisor, not some chump on the street. In fact, the chump may know more about foreign relations that does Brezinski.

As a native of Poland, I wonder how he feels about OZero’s change in our defense posture regarding it? Maybe he views Polish airspace as actually belonging to Russia since they did invade the country in WW2.

Vince


14 posted on 09/20/2009 7:15:07 AM PDT by Mouton
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To: NativeNewYorker
The following explains it all.

Zbigniew Brzezinski served as United States National Security Advisor to President Jimmy Carter.

15 posted on 09/20/2009 7:15:48 AM PDT by Aroostook25
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To: safisoft

“our” airspace, you ignorant twit?

Same thought here !!!!!!


16 posted on 09/20/2009 7:16:00 AM PDT by buck61
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To: NativeNewYorker

unbelievable.


17 posted on 09/20/2009 7:16:17 AM PDT by ken21 (i am not voting for a rino-progressive.)
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To: NativeNewYorker

Don’t forget - Zbigniew is daddy to Joe Scarborow’s TV gal-pal Mika on pMSNBC...


18 posted on 09/20/2009 7:18:17 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Obama-care won't pull Grandma's plug - because Grandma won't be plugged in under Obama-care.)
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To: NativeNewYorker

Brzezinski......

The same genius who along with Jimmy Carter gave Iran away to the Ayatollahs thus putting Islamic fundamentalism into hyper-drive

Wonder what Brzezinski thinks about 0bama taking away Poland’s missile defenses leaving them at the mercy of the Russians


19 posted on 09/20/2009 7:18:35 AM PDT by dennisw (Free Republic is an island in a sea of zombies)
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To: NativeNewYorker

Real actual Americans do not shoot at their allies and friends. Israel is both.


20 posted on 09/20/2009 7:20:56 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Obama, you stop lying; we'll stop callin' you a LIAR.)
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To: NativeNewYorker
What the hell, why don't we just nuke Tel Aviv, that'll solve the problem.

My God...

21 posted on 09/20/2009 7:21:29 AM PDT by THX 1138 ("Harry, I have a gift.")
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To: Mouton

I have always considered him an idiot.

I also consider him to be a communist sympathizer.

This statement certainly proves both to any doubter.

Why anyone would interview him is a mystery to me.


22 posted on 09/20/2009 7:21:31 AM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: NativeNewYorker
Another one of those self-hating Jews that seem so common on the Left. It is really hard to fathom why so many in the Jewish community side with Democrats.

A couple of my conservative Jewish friends have never been able to explain it. They remain as puzzled as I. Really frustrates them.
23 posted on 09/20/2009 7:22:15 AM PDT by Sudetenland (Slow to anger but terrible in vengence...such is the character of the American people.)
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To: Aroostook25; NativeNewYorker

>>>> Zbigniew Brzezinski served as United States National Security Advisor to President Jimmy Carter. <<<<

Brzezinski and Carter are both noted Jew-haters and anti-Semites.


24 posted on 09/20/2009 7:22:46 AM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: Mouton

Iraqi airspace...based on what I’ve read...belongs to Iraq. The US has zero rights to fire on any aircraft unless it’s attacking US or Iraqi forces. I’m going to make a guess that there is no mechanism for the US to ask for permission to shoot down aircraft, and we have no intention of making such an agreement.

I’ll add another problem here...we’ve added so many visual ID rules that if a US pilot guessed it was Israel...he might take his time in getting to the ID point, and then this long process of getting permission to do anything...ends up letting the plane leave Iraqi airspace.

In the end...the “Brez” lives in a mythical world where a bunch of college professors pretend to know something on world events. Luckily, he has a think-tank that keeps him paid and happy.


25 posted on 09/20/2009 7:23:52 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: NativeNewYorker

Seems like the Israelis had already met with the Saudis and the Kuwaitis to get permission to enter their airspace, thereby circumventing Iraqi airspace. I read that several months ago.


26 posted on 09/20/2009 7:24:49 AM PDT by bergmeid
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To: hinckley buzzard
"I recall when these characters were in power"

Zbig is a Realist/Pragmatist and they have been the traditional/dominant group in US foreign policy. Certainly under republicans.

OTOH, the NeoCons dominated US foreign policy for a few short years under GW Bush but Bush removed them in 2006 and put the Realists back in charge, Surely you remember the Iraq Study Group and Realist Bob Gates replacing Rumsfeld?

Obama, of course, retained the Realists.

As for Zbig, the foreign press is reporting that he, Scowcroft, and Kissinger are writing Obama's back up plan, to be brought forward when Israel backs out.

27 posted on 09/20/2009 7:25:07 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: screaminsunshine; All
This is exposing the insanity of the Progressive Socialist mentality now controlling our government. I wonder if we can survive the biggest mistake we have ever made. These people are very dangerous to our Liberty and Safety.

BTTT and thread BTTT!

28 posted on 09/20/2009 7:26:21 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: All
If and that is a big if, our pilots or ground forces shoot at Israel,this country will not split it will schism.

It may be unrepairable.

29 posted on 09/20/2009 7:29:35 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: SJackson

LORD, GOD, PLEASE GIVE

ZB a MOST FITTING response

OBVIOUSLY FROM YOU

to his satanic assertion.


30 posted on 09/20/2009 7:29:56 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: NativeNewYorker

I would say, that, shooting down the planes of an ally, would not constitute a lawful order.


31 posted on 09/20/2009 7:32:08 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (Idiotcracy has arrived 400 years early.)
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To: NativeNewYorker

It kinda reminds me of that moment in Dr. Strangelove where the arm takes over and tosses out a Nazi salute. Except that Brzezinski’s comments appear neither involuntary or impulsive, but instead a considered view. Heck, he probably thinks it “moderate”.


32 posted on 09/20/2009 7:32:08 AM PDT by Stultis (Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia; Democrats always opposed waterboarding as torture)
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To: MuttTheHoople

It will be within a much shorter span than that. If we shoot down Israeli jets, America will never recover. Katrina will look like a picnic compared to what He will do. Did God cause Katrina? I don’t know. We must support Israel. God will NEVER let Israel go. They are His chosen people and America is NOT. He promised Israel to the Jews. He NEVER goes back on His word. We will go down in history as a once great nation that completely lost it’s way. We had better pray that this doesn’t happen.


33 posted on 09/20/2009 7:32:34 AM PDT by rtbwood
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To: NativeNewYorker

From a guy who created and brought to power J. Carter and BHO, seems like he would want to destroy communist Russia’s little friend, Iran.

This old fart is one powerful, manipulative, evil man. Along with his buddies Soros and the Rockefellers, we have much to fear. For Obama is their puppet,

http://www.modernhistoryproject.org/mhp/ArticleDisplay.php?Article=FinalWarn09-1&Entity=BrzezinskiZ


34 posted on 09/20/2009 7:36:24 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Sudetenland
Another one of those self-hating Jews that seem so common on the Left. It is really hard to fathom why so many in the Jewish community side with Democrats.

Liberal intellectuals are so objective they won't take their own side in an argument.

35 posted on 09/20/2009 7:39:44 AM PDT by Steely Tom
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To: Sudetenland

I’m pretty sure Zbig is Catholic, insofar as he has any faith.


36 posted on 09/20/2009 7:42:16 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Steely Tom

Nothing in politics happens by accident.
This is an intentional warning to Israel by close friends of the Administration.
But it is just a threat. The Saudi’s have already given a green light for the operation against Iran and their cooperation with the US or Israel is essential.
Israel will ignore the threat, but may move up their planned assault on Iran.


37 posted on 09/20/2009 7:43:55 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: NativeNewYorker
Really? My bad.

Or as they would say on Monty Python, "Say no more, say no more, say no more, squire."
38 posted on 09/20/2009 7:46:48 AM PDT by Sudetenland (Slow to anger but terrible in vengence...such is the character of the American people.)
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To: NativeNewYorker

Someone please remove Mr Brezinski from behind the podium and escort him back to his room...and tighten the straps up a bit more so he can’t get out again.


39 posted on 09/20/2009 7:54:08 AM PDT by jla
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To: NativeNewYorker
Brzezinski, the face of The Pit.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

40 posted on 09/20/2009 7:55:14 AM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: Quix
LORD, GOD, PLEASE GIVE

ZB a MOST FITTING response

OBVIOUSLY FROM YOU

to his satanic assertion.

I join you in this prayer with a resounding "AMEN!"

41 posted on 09/20/2009 8:02:18 AM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: The Comedian
Fellow Pitsters.
42 posted on 09/20/2009 8:06:54 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Quix

See #42.

I pray these folks join Ziggy in God’s response.


43 posted on 09/20/2009 8:08:39 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: NativeNewYorker
I'm speechless!
44 posted on 09/20/2009 8:10:10 AM PDT by FR_addict (www.conservativesinactionusa.com)
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To: NativeNewYorker
Brzezinski


Bastard
45 posted on 09/20/2009 8:19:04 AM PDT by Since 2009-07-21
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To: wolfcreek
(Rocky and Soros)

At least we have photos to use on the "Wanted" posters...

46 posted on 09/20/2009 8:23:42 AM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: NativeNewYorker

bookmark


47 posted on 09/20/2009 8:31:26 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: The Comedian

Alas, they’ll never come to (our) justice.


48 posted on 09/20/2009 8:34:43 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: NativeNewYorker
Obama Adviser Would Have U.S. Confront God
49 posted on 09/20/2009 8:38:02 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: NativeNewYorker

I hope to God (literally) that our commanders in Iraq would not be so stupid as to engage Israeli jets as a political statement. I don’t think that will happen; even with Obama in control, I think we will reluctantly allow what must be done. Obama will be like Pontius Pilate; I wash my hands of this Iran matter, you people decide the fate of the accused.


50 posted on 09/20/2009 8:38:45 AM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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