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Pandemic' bill raises ire, constitutional questions
One News Now ^ | 9/10/2009 | Pete Chagnon

Posted on 09/10/2009 4:58:39 AM PDT by IbJensen

Could the swine flu usher in martial law? An emergency physician from Fort Hood, Texas, weighs in on that possibility.

Lawmakers in Massachusetts are considering Senate Bill 2028, a pandemic response bill that will give public health officials and law enforcement complete control over citizens of the Commonwealth. Under the bill, should a pandemic be declared, the aforementioned officials will have authority to quarantine and forcibly immunize citizens. Any citizens resisting will face stiff fines and up to 30 days in prison.

The bill also gives authorities the right to seize private property and supplies and redistribute them as they see fit -- which some see as a threat to Fourth Amendment rights. Persons will also be required to report any suspicious events or face stiff fines. Said persons reporting will be cleared of any criminal wrongdoing if such suspicions arise after the pandemic has passed.

John Dale Dunn, an emergency physician in Fort Hood, Texas, says the bill offends him greatly.

"If you're saving people who are [clamoring] to be led to safety, then it's going to be gold stars for you for the next election," he notes. "So I'm not surprised that this pandemic thing attracted Massachusetts politicians who are emblematic of politicians everywhere, but they are just a little more extreme."

(Excerpt) Read more at onenewsnow.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: bill; constitutional; flu; h1n1; influenza; ire; massachusetts; pandemic; questions; raises; swineflu
....the White House was out of line when it issued a statement that more than 90,000 people will die from swine flu...

Liars!

1 posted on 09/10/2009 4:58:39 AM PDT by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen

just the beginning.....


2 posted on 09/10/2009 5:02:55 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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To: IbJensen

The CDC report directly contradicts thw White House fantasy.


3 posted on 09/10/2009 5:07:10 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: IbJensen

Anyone is wondering why ammunition is flying off the shelves?

Calling the proponents and supports of such legislation “Nazis” is no longer hyperbole. They ARE Nazis. And they deserve the traditional penalty for being a Nazi.


4 posted on 09/10/2009 5:09:12 AM PDT by Seruzawa (Obamalama lied, the republic died.)
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To: IbJensen

Do these holier-than-thou libtard politicians know the difference between “pandemic” and “epidemic”?

What’s next, martial law if an asteroid passes within a million miles of Earth? (Make that “meteor,” they might think “asteroid” is something to do with Bwany...nevermind)


5 posted on 09/10/2009 5:10:06 AM PDT by CPOSharky (Pay cash and live. Or die waiting for the gov's "free" care)
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To: IbJensen

So Massachusetts is finally going to get that HIV thing under control?


6 posted on 09/10/2009 5:27:35 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: snowrip
Here is the newsday account of CDC's press discussion. I note very few outlets carried this, to keep hope alive. If you get a choice of who to believe, Obama White House is last on my list.

And why would Obama need another ginned up crisis?

7 posted on 09/10/2009 5:31:05 AM PDT by Tarpon (The Joker's plan -- Slavery by debt so large it can never be repaid...)
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To: IbJensen
Any citizens resisting will face stiff fines and up to 30 days in prison.

In the old days, the citizens would meet their oppressors on Lexington Green. Sigh. I don't think MA will stand up to tyranny, but other states will, I hope.

8 posted on 09/10/2009 5:36:32 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: IbJensen; Mrs. B.S. Roberts

The Commonwealth of Massachusetts. Where the TREE of LIBERTY took root and flourished.
The Commonwealth of Massachusetts. Where the TREE of LIBERTY eventually withered and died.


9 posted on 09/10/2009 5:48:20 AM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf (NY TIMES: "We print the news as it fits our views")
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To: IbJensen; TigerLikesRooster; stephenjohnbanker; M. Espinola
The truth is this:

The Vaccine May Be More Dangerous Than Swine Flu

Excerpt:

* * * This virus continues to be an enigma for virologists. In the April 30, 2009 issue of Nature, a virologist was quoted as saying,“Where the hell it got all these genes from we don’t know.” Extensive analysis of the virus found that it contained the original 1918 H1N1 flu virus, the avian flu virus (bird flu), and two new H3N2 virus genes from Eurasia. Debate continues over the possibility that swine flu is a genetically engineered virus. * * *

The Baxter vaccine, called Celvapan, has had fast track approval. It uses a new vero cell technology, which utilizes cultured cells from the African green monkey. This same animal tissue transmits a number of vaccine-contaminating viruses, including the HIV virus.

The Baxter company has been associated with two deadly scandals. The first event occurred in 2006 when hemophiliac components were contaminated with HIV virus and injected in tens of thousands of people, including thousands of children. Baxter continued to release the HIV contaminated vaccine even after the contamination was known.

". . . Novartis, the second contender, also has an agreement with WHO for a pandemic vaccine. Novartis appears to have won the contract, since their vaccine is near completion. What is terrifying is that these pandemic vaccines contain ingredients, called immune adjuvants that a number of studies have shown cause devastating autoimmune disorders, including rheumatoid arthritis, multiple sclerosis and lupus.

Animal studies using this adjuvant have found them to be deadly. A study using 14 guinea pigs found that when they were injected with the special adjuvant, only one animal survived. A repeat of the study found the same deadly outcome.

So, what is this deadly ingredient? It is called squalene, a type of oil. The Chiron company, maker of the deadly anthrax vaccine, makes an adjuvant called MF-59 which contains two main ingredients of concern-squalene and gp120. A number of studies have shown that squalene can trigger all of the above-mentioned autoimmune diseases when injected.

* * * I reviewed a number of studies on this adjuvant and found something quite interesting. Several studies done on human test subjects found MF-59 to be a very safe immune adjuvant. But when I checked to see who did these studies, I found-to no surprise-that they were done by the Novartis Pharmaceutical Company and Chiron Pharmaceutical Company, which have merged. They were all published in "prestigious" medical journals. Also, to no surprise, a great number of studies done by independent laboratories and research institutions all found a strong link between MF-59 and autoimmune diseases.

Squalene in vaccines has been strongly linked to the Gulf War Syndrome. On August 1991, Anthony Principi, Secretary of Veterans Affairs admitted that soldiers vaccinated with the anthrax vaccine from 1990 to 1991 had an increased risk of 200 percent in developing the deadly disease amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), also called Lou Gehrig's disease. The soldiers also suffered from a number of debilitating and life-shortening diseases, such as polyarteritis nodosa, multiple sclerosis (MS), lupus, transverse myelitis (a neurological disorder caused by inflammation of the spinal cord), endocarditis (inflammation of the heart's inner lining), optic neuritis with blindness and glomerulonephritis (a type of kidney disease). * * *

In short -- injecting these vaccines is tantamount to injecting poison into your system.
10 posted on 09/11/2009 3:48:47 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: ex-Texan

The Obama crowd are operating by fear and threats of retaliation (as in Mass), if the public does not fully obey the ‘leader’. Totalitarianism marches on.


11 posted on 09/11/2009 4:03:43 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not 'free'.)
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To: M. Espinola

Last Monday in the news some ?200 students in WA state came down with H1N1?

It was a Fox blurb, never saw it posted.....


12 posted on 09/11/2009 4:06:22 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: txhurl

So much is being covered up concerning what I consider a man made flu. The coming colder months will be the most precarious.


13 posted on 09/12/2009 1:02:00 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not 'free'.)
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