Posted on 09/10/2009 4:48:10 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
Joe Biden has given an excellent example of the famous aphorism that "a gaffe is when a politician tells the truth."
Appearing on Good Morning America today to talk up Pres. Obama's health care speech to Congress, the veep praised his boss for debunking various supposedly false assertions, including "how we're going to insure illegal aliens." Biden was just about to move on when, realizing his crime against political correctness, he revised his remark: "undocumented aliens," quoth the VP.
View video here.
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At least he didn’t call them clean and articulate ping to Today show list.
“We won’t specifically name illegal aliens as covered persons under National Socialist Health Care. We’ll just make it illegal for doctors or hospitals to ask about anybody’s legal status.”
Other than polled response to the words, what is the difference between undocumented and illegal?
I like that name,”Biden Bumbles”.
Well, how else could he ever be expected to come into contact with it, for heaven's sake...? ;)
Obama can claim he wasn’t lying about this, because (in his mind) they aren’t “illegal”—only “undocumented”. And he will be more than happy to provide the documents.
Ding! Ding! Ding! Precisely!!
This guy’s IQ is lower than whale feces in the marianna trench. Glad to see he is keeping the proud tradition of imbeciles in public service ... he sure as hell couldn’t make it anywher working for a living.
jOE, JOE, JOE......you just proved Wilsons point....you card!
The Pride of Scranton unconsciously utters the truth which proves that his el jeffe is an unmitigated liar, which he was correctly called during his boring, preachy, smug, narcissistic rant last night.
Obama is undocumented, although perhaps not illegal.
Illegal alien suggests that they are here illegally, and should be arrested/deported. Undocumented alien suggests they don’t have documentation and should be given such.
If there were truly a plan to deny health care to illegal aliens, wouldn't there have been massive protests among the Hispanic population? Not a word. They have been told not to worry. They will get their quid pro quo.
Even Happy Hour Joe is right once in a while.
...and Wilson had to apologize for his remark?
So why don’t republicans put a bill out there that is EXACTLY what PO said last night? In simple language. Non-citizens are not covered. Taxes are not raised to pay for this. The budget cannot be negatively impacted by this.
Instead, we will end up with 1k+ pages of lawyer speak, and it will mean whatever they want.
I think he apologized for the circumstance....not for apposing
Wilson is right!!! but now its not illegal its undocumented.
another play on words....obama is so good with playing with words.
The exclusion of pre-existing conditions in the proposed bill sounds nice, but in reality it will be a disaster. Why will people pay for insurance if they can wait until they’re sick and get it then? Insurance depends on people who will make few claims balancing out the people who make many. This won’t happen with the new system and the only people on it will be the most expensive to insure. This ultimately drives up costs and forces the remaining healthy people so go elsewhere (as happened in Maine).
States like Maine, Massachusetts, and Hawaii have tried socialized medicine and in all cases the cost is many times more than the estimates and the result has been a failure. People who have private healthcare insurance drop their coverage to enroll in the government programs and costs skyrocket.
The bills impose an individual mandate on me to buy health insurance approved by the Federal government. What will happen to me if I don’t go along?
How will they prevent illegal aliens from participating? Are they going to deny them healthcare? If not, who will pay for them if not the taxpayers? Will non-compliance penalties apply to illegal aliens the same as to American citizens and legal aliens?
Despite claims by the Whitehouse that the program will not include illegal aliens, the figures that they use in their argument for a “failed system” of 47 million uninsured includes them. Attempts by Republican lawmakers to add verbiage to specifically exclude illegal aliens has been blocked. How is it fair that I pay for the medical care of people who have ignored our laws by sneaking into our country and haven’t paid into the system?
The bill requires employers to provide insurance for all employees or face a fine. This will cause small businesses to cut back or drive them out of business. The end result will be that entry level jobs will disappear and the tax base will shrink as small businesses go under. The newly unemployed will have to use the public option, but will not have money to pay for their share. The burden then falls on the remaining taxpayers.
Governors of both parties have strongly objected to current proposals, saying that mandated expansion of Medicaid will put an intolerable fiscal burden on struggling state treasuries and taxpayers. This is essentially an unfunded federal mandate that will push the states into bankruptcy.
As currently proposed, “qualified” health insurance plans must include all “essential benefits” as determined by federal officials. The majority continues to force inclusion of elective abortions as an “essential benefit,” insurance companies must provide and taxpayers must subsidize. What will you do to protect insurance providers and citizens whose consciences require them not to provide or finance elective abortions?
As it stands today, the favored bill contains a “public option”—a government-run insurance company “to keep the private insurers honest.” Will this government-run company pay taxes, pay for its own revenue collection and marketing costs, and pay market interest rates on its debt? Or will it enjoy government backing that will enable it to undersell its private competitors, swallow up their customers, and become a new “Medicare for Everybody”?
Medicare is $36 trillion out of actuarial balance and will run out of hospitalization benefit funds by 2017. How will the government-run “public option” insurance company avoid turning into another Medicare disaster? And how will our senior citizens on Medicare continue to get medical services?
If you limit what healthcare providers can charge you decrease the profit motive that guides a lot of people into the medical field. That results in fewer doctors with will have to result in healthcare rationing. Whenever the government imposes price controls it has to impose rationing.
What gives the federal government the right to do this? There is no Constitutional mandate that allows the federal government to take over health care. In the past Congress has misused the interstate commerce statement to justify its interference in the free market. (The Constitution gives Congress the power "To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian tribes." The word "regulate" meant, at that time, to make regular, or uniform.)
In summary, this bill is unfair to taxpayers, it will drive up the deficit at a time when we're borrowing 40% of the money we need to run the country, it will hurt the people it’s designed to help by eliminating jobs and limiting healthcare for the elderly, it’s unconstitutional, the provision to force Americans to pay for abortions is immoral, and it’s anti-free market. What happens to the people on the government program when the lawmakers sober up and realize we can't afford this after they've run private insurers out of business? Suddenly the program gets canceled and those people are worse off than they were before.
Bingo! This has been my feeling all along. The immigration bill is close on the horizon, while the provisions of the healthcare bill are not due to take effect until 2013.
By that time, the current illegals/undocs will be 'citizens'.
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