Posted on 09/09/2009 11:31:47 PM PDT by neverdem
I totally agree, but they could have added anarchy on the far far right too... real anarchy not that fake radical left kind
I've always put fascism and communism together on the far left, with anarchy on the extreme right.
that is how it should be
Anarchy has no place on the political spectrum, because it is the total absence of the political spectrum. Under anarchy, there is no external authority, and therefore no politics for that authority to be defined by.
I disagree with this author, because he falls into the same trap that the conventional political spectrum does: defining the spectrum by the ideologies, rather than defining the spectrum by the actions.
IMO, the truly accurate political spectrum would have total centralized government on the far left, with total decentralized government on the far right. This way, communism defines the left end of the chart, with fascism slightly to its right. Federalism becomes the center, because it maintains strict authority while decentralizing it. On the far right, you have totally decentralized authority, such as autonomous city-states.
Just how I see it.
Actually, some really weird links brought me to anarchist websites. It actually has a formulated system of “rules” and there are left anarchists and right anarchists. I don’t understand most of it though.
Most of the left anarchists really just want to destabalize society so as to usher in “true” communism. These idiots actually believed the tripe about the stateless communist ideal utopia. Its pretty incredible.
The others seem like hyperlibertarians
Then, like I said, they aren’t really anarchists.
Reminds me of a joke I once heard. What’s the difference between a liberal and a libertarian? The libertarian just wants to grow, use, and sell his own weed; the liberal wants you to buy it for him.
That reminds me of a thread on DU the other day where someone asked if Obamacare would cover prescription pot.
“Prescription,” right. The sad thing is that weed would improve their symptoms.
This thread reminded me of my faux anarchist-revolutionary site which is only about 70% serious.
http://unitedcitizen.blogspot.com/
It would then seem that many of our founding fathers would have wanted us Constitutionally just left of anarchy. Certainly not in the center.
I recall attending a speech by Karl Hess, back in the late 70's or early 80's. Hess was a Nixon speechwriter, and a friend of liberty, who became disenchanted with politics, resigned the political fight, moved to West Virginia and became a welder. His writing appealed to libertarians of both the right and the left.
At this speech, there may have been 200 or so attendees, the lefties sat on the left side of the room and the righties on the right. This wasn't planned, it just happened naturally as attendees arrived, scouted out the room, and sat next to friends, or next to those who looked like friends. It was a memorable site. Kids with long hair, jeans and "don't tread on me" tee shirts on the left, bow tie clad old right intellectuals on the right.
Just out of college myself and not too well read in the literature of liberty and politics, this was a revelation to me - a sign that the mainstream left vs right single dimension political spectrum was seriously flawed.
Yes I use to deal with the type in a collage class where the made us form groups and roll play forming one of these stateless communist little utopia...
I use to make it a point of being contrary to the point the others in the little utopia have to used hypothetical force (IE create a government) to "check me"...
They had to face the paradox that government is a necessary evil
That we require government for the same reason we want as little of it as possible.
Is really funny how fast you can make a communist anarchists in to a small government private property libertarian in one one these role playing game just by being a the "really world" pain in the ass
lol.
sounds fun
[I totally agree, but they could have added anarchy on the far far right too... real anarchy not that fake radical left kind]
Except there is decentralist and centralist anarchy. I’m too sleepy to explain.
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