Posted on 09/09/2009 6:59:40 AM PDT by Scythian
They have the sheer numbers to put through any bill they want. They know they are in VERY SERIOUS trouble now in the upcoming elections, in fact, it could be devastating for them. So, in order to ensure their planned agenda of socialism moves forward regardless of upcoming election outcomes they must pass a Government Health care plan that can undercut and eventually eliminate all private insurance. Even if they lose the presidency next go around, they will have won the war. And they can continue to rule from that point forward without even winning the White House.
The stakes are very high, but my gut feeling is telling me that they are going to put this through against the will of the people knowing full well it can never be undone. Eventually, complete control will be theirs. They know that increasingly Americans are less Christian, are taught nothing of liberty in schools, and that they will end up in the White House again. If I was Obama, and working for the other team, then that is exactly what I would do, pass a Government Health Care plan regardless of the feelings of the American people. Since the MSM now basically writes the history books Obama will be a martyr, not appreciated in his time, because he will surely lose the next presidential race over the health care bill. However, he will be hailed as the one who steered the great ship of capitalism away from the rocks and toward a world of peace and harmony. The democrats will have ensured the path of this country is forever theirs...
It’s the perfect plan …
Hopefully, the tea parties and townhall meetings can bring us back from the brink.
You have confused the “battle” with the “war”
RE :” If I was Obama, and working for the other team, then that is exactly what I would do, pass a Government Health Care plan regardless of the feelings of the American people”
If you was Obama you couldnt ‘pass’ a bill, only congress can do that. Obama can only sign or veto one if it gets to him, and he wont veto.
Your prediction is not helpful, what will be in the passed bill and when will it pass?
Why will it pass? Because Dems and many Pubbies will take the easy way out and call it compromise.
Plus it will get done before the end of this year as voters have a short memory and politicians rely on that. Many many voters will not remember how they voted a year from now ... nor will they care.
With the AMNESTY/SHAMNESY last year, the voters really got their Congressman/Senators attention with phone calls and faxes. Unique in the annals of politicians listening.
Question is ... can the voters do it again? Don’t think I’ll hold my breath to see.
...to literally start a civil war.
For all the Town Hall protests and Glenn Beck exposures, it will still be passed, in moderated format, and then expanded continuosly over time as ALL government-run programs are.
We will fund the agenda via wealth-redistribution to buy the votes of the lackluster/non-productive/welfare class for every government takeover.
Get used to it.
Stop being rational, dammit! It's "Run Around Shrieking Like a Loon" Day here on FR! ;)
The bills aren’t scheduled to become law until 2013. What is there to stop repeal prior to that, especially should we regain congress in 2010 or 2012, and especially should they use the nuclear option to pass it?
Why wasn't I told? Now I have to stop being rational too, like E. Pluribus Unum. And here I also thought we may be able to repeal the bill in the future.
My thinking is this, they’ve shown their hand now, even independents and democrats (at least some) now realize they’ve been duped, what the right has been saying is true, they are socialists, they must make the move now, and this bill is everything, the hinge pin on which total controls swings ....
I understand that, but the bill doesn’t become law until after the next presidential election. The idea that they’re trying to solidify power this way should work in our favor. I’m simply not sold on the idea that their taking this route is the final nail in America’s coffin. It may be the final nail in the coffin of the Democrat Party.
The Wall street Journal is reporting that Obama is going to back the socialized medicine aka public option in his speech tonight and they are going to ram it down our throats.
>> Since Obamacare doesn’t go into effect until 2013, there will be plenty of time for the 2010 Republican Congress to convene a death panel on it.
It’ll be as easy as taking candy from a child’s mouth.
Assuming you’re not being sarcastic, you give the GOP too much credibility. Also imagine the hysteria that will be launched by the unions and socialists against any effort to undo the damage set in place by the current DC crew.
Let's all hold hands and run around in a really BIG circle, together, screaming "AAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEEEE!!! AAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEEEE!!!" That'll take care of things, I betcha! ;)
Problem is the Democrats will filibuster any roll backs in the Senate
I love your optimism! I pray daily for our country, I too hope we can save it.
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