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Mexican gunfire closes UTB campus[South Texas]
San Antonio Express-News ^ | 09/05/2009 | Lynn Brezosky

Posted on 09/05/2009 1:02:06 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch

BROWNSVILLE — Stray bullets from a shootout across the Rio Grande in Matamoros, Mexico, pierced a building and a car Friday at the University of Texas-Brownsville/Texas Southmost College, prompting university police to close campus early. No one at the university was injured.

"There has been report of a shooting incident on the Mexican side of the Rio Grande River and it has posed a problem to the Riverside campus. Individuals in the Education and Business Complex, the new Library and the new Classroom Building on University Blvd. should leave the area. All others on campus should avoid this area and take necessary precautions," read an advisory on the campus Web site.

University spokeswoman Letty Fernandez said the first advisory was posted at 2:45 p.m., about an hour after the gunfire reportedly began.

"We pretty much sent everybody home at 4:45 (p.m.)," she said. "I'm not aware of the campus closing for anything like this before."

A 6:30 p.m. update said the campus would remain closed until Tuesday, except for already scheduled Saturday classes. Fernandez said that might change with updates posted Friday evening or early today. Campus would already have been closed Monday for the Labor Day holiday.

Campus employees were urged to check with campus police and take precautions if reporting to work on Saturday. Soccer games scheduled for Friday evening and today were moved to a public park.

Customs and Border Protection spokesman Eddie Flores confirmed that there was "an event" in Mexico but had little information. He said Brownsville's international bridges remained open without any traffic diversions.

"Our officers have been put on alert," he said.

Brownsville residents told the Brownsville Herald they heard gunfire for more than an hour.

KGBT-TV reported via Twitter that the shootout stemmed from the capture of a Zeta member. Zetas are said to be the enforcement wing of the Gulf Cartel.

The UTB campus borders the Rio Grande.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: banglist; brownsville; corruption; immigration; matamoros; mexico; narcoterror; zetas
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"KGBT-TV reported via Twitter that the shootout stemmed from the capture of a Zeta member."
1 posted on 09/05/2009 1:02:07 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch
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To: SwinneySwitch

I’m never going to get used to all this hopey changey stuff.


2 posted on 09/05/2009 1:04:02 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare! When "natural causes" just isn't good enough!)
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To: SwinneySwitch

I’ve always thought that soccer games could be made more exciting with several paint-ball shooters, given unbridled discretion, stationed along the sidelines, encouraging slackers and punishing yellow card recipients.
Actual gunfire never occured to me, but they may be on to something.


3 posted on 09/05/2009 1:12:03 PM PDT by tumblindice (Bienvenidos a Estados Unidos! Now, up against the wall putas.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Yikes! Even the bullets try to sneak across the border.
4 posted on 09/05/2009 1:13:22 PM PDT by dog breath
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To: bunster; waterhill; FlyingEagle; Playa Pete; NorwegianViking; Texas resident; GulfBreeze; ...
Sound of whistling bullet ping!))

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.

5 posted on 09/05/2009 1:14:43 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Mexico - beyond your expectations.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

It’s total anarchy down there, at least in the border regions. I wouldn’t go to Mexico on a bet.


6 posted on 09/05/2009 1:16:59 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman

“Click” “click”! That’s the sound of Mexican bullets striking the tall, metal American border wall.


7 posted on 09/05/2009 1:19:26 PM PDT by TheBlueMax ("Concentrated power has always been the enemy of liberty. " (Ronald Reagan))
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To: dog breath

“Yikes! Even the bullets try to sneak across the border.”

lol...yep and more on the way. I bet half the narco leaders of Mexico are living in the US. There’s thousands of cartel members in my North West area fighting for control of land to grow dope AND burning down our forests thousands of acres at a time!


8 posted on 09/05/2009 1:19:28 PM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs on our lands instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: SwinneySwitch

“I gotta work on my aim.”
“No, no, no, don’t think of it as work! The whole point is just to enjoy yourself.”


9 posted on 09/05/2009 1:24:12 PM PDT by RichInOC (...Phi Kappa Sigma, Beta Rho '87..."Ho-ly s**t!" "There were BLANKS in that gun!")
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To: SwinneySwitch

UTB? University of Taco Bell?


10 posted on 09/05/2009 1:36:08 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: glorgau

University of Texas-Brownsville


11 posted on 09/05/2009 1:53:55 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Mexico - beyond your expectations.)
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To: glorgau
UTB? University of Taco Bell?

ROTFL!! That's great! I'm from that area originally, you just don't know how close you are with that! Good work.

12 posted on 09/05/2009 2:18:39 PM PDT by brushcop (SFC Sallie, CPL Long, LTHarris, SSG Brown, PVT Simmons KIA OIF lll&V, they died for you, honor them)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Back during the Mexican Revolution there were so many fights along the border that Americans used to watch them from grandstands in certain cities so they could see all the action.

Today’s gunmen are usually narcos fighting the cops or military.


13 posted on 09/05/2009 3:21:44 PM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: RichInOC
“No, no, no, don’t think of it as work! The whole point is just to enjoy yourself.”

Classic Animal House. I wonder if a building tall enough could be found in the area to send some return rounds of happiness from a Barrett M82A1.

14 posted on 09/05/2009 4:11:10 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Shoot back.

Why do I always have to think of everything?

15 posted on 09/05/2009 4:13:39 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: SwinneySwitch

Shoot back! Maybe from a different spot. Engineers should be able to help with the ballistics of “plunging fire”.


16 posted on 09/05/2009 6:21:03 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: ExSoldier
Classic Animal House. I wonder if a building tall enough could be found in the area to send some return rounds of happiness from a Barrett M82A1.

When you are in range, they are in range too. Of course with a .50 BMG you could back up a bit, and they'd still be in range. :)

It's pretty flat down there. There is a rather large flat topped water tower just a couple hundred meters "cross range" from where the rounds need to be coming from. That has to be a "finger" of Mexico that sort of sticks up into Brownsville, following a loop of the Rio Grande. Can't quite see how rounds could be "accidently" heading into Mexico, unless someone has their backs to the river pretty much at that little finger, and the rounds going into Brownsville are "incoming" for them.

Looks like a good place to set up, say an M-240 or two, would be on top of the canopy over the border crossing checkpoint, which is right at the tip of that finger. Ma Duece could be a bit farther back, with M-240s or M-249s to it's flanks.

17 posted on 09/05/2009 7:06:00 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
Here is a more detailed story, with reportage from Matamoros: Stray bullets reach UTB-TSC

the shooting reportedly began around 1:30 p.m. near Calle Primera and Calle Canales. Neighbors in the area told The Brownsville Herald they heard gunshots and loud explosions for more than an hour.

The shooting was said to have continued to the intersection of Calle Nicaragua and Calle Acapulco in Colonia Delicias

That is not in the "finger" that I'd thought, But the second location is only about a block from the border, call it about 100 meters, in a "Colonia" called "Bagdad". However it's about a mile almost due south of the UTB campus. The campus borders the river, but the land along the river is pretty much empty.

18 posted on 09/05/2009 7:46:16 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
Of course with a .50 BMG you could back up a bit, and they'd still be in range. :) Looks like a good place to set up, say an M-240 or two, would be on top of the canopy over the border crossing checkpoint, which is right at the tip of that finger. Ma Duece could be a bit farther back, with M-240s or M-249s to it's flanks.

THAT sounds like a "plan" to me! :~) I wonder how surprised those folks on the other side would be to find well aimed full auto and Barrett M82A1 fire coming back at them?

It just fries my GUTS to think how the ROE for our national guardsmen and border patrol officers to have faced armed incursions by the Mexican military (acting as paid cover for smugglers) onto our own soil for the last 10+ years and recorded over 200 armed incursions only to be ordered by the chicken livered powers that be to run and hide rather than take invaders under fire! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

19 posted on 09/06/2009 12:48:54 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Please unsubscribe me, Your alerts have made me hate everything Mexican.
Again, I don't want to hear any more of this shit.
Take me off your list, please.
20 posted on 09/06/2009 9:00:19 PM PDT by skeptoid
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