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Obama punishes small country because its courts opposed dictatorial ex-president's return to power
examiner.com ^ | August 27, 2009 | Hans Bader

Posted on 08/30/2009 1:27:34 PM PDT by grundle

The Obama Administration has decided to block travel by the people of Honduras to the United States to punish their country for its Supreme Court's refusal to back the return to power of Honduras’s ex-president and would-be dictator, Manuel Zelaya, who is backed by left-wing Latin American dictators like Castro and Chavez. The Obama Administration is now blocking the issuance of nearly all visas, meaning that a Honduran grandma who wants to visit her grandkids in the United States can’t.

Obama’s decision came in response to a recent ruling by the Honduras Supreme Court, ruling that the removal of the country’s ex-president and would-be dictator was a perfectly lawful “constitutional succession,” and that he would face criminal charges for the crimes he committed as president if he returned. Obama’s action will further destabilize a country whose economy has been pushed to the brink by recent turmoil, and which is the third-poorest country in the Western Hemisphere. (Honduras has close economic links to the U.S., making it very vulnerable to sanctions).

Earlier, soldiers acting on orders from the Honduras Supreme Court removed Honduras’s president from office, after he attempted to circumvent constitutional term limits, used mobs to intimidate his critics, threatened public employees with termination if they refused to help him violate the Constitution, engaged in massive corruption, illegally cut off public funds to local governments whose leaders refused to back his quest for more power, denied basic government services to his critics, refused to enforce dozens of laws passed by Congress, and spent the country into virtual bankruptcy, refusing to submit a budget so that he could illegally spend public funds on his cronies and pet projects. (The ex-president made Richard Nixon look like an angel by comparison, and Americans would never put up with a president who behaved as badly as Honduras’s ex-president. But American liberals sometimes romanticize left-wing dictators overseas, and Honduras’s ex-president, despite being a wealthy landowner, knew how to curry favor with intellectuals and journalists through seductive left-wing rhetoric). The nation’s Congress then voted almost unanimously to replace him with the Congressional speaker, who is the country’s current president.

Because soldiers, “instead of the police,” carried out the court’s orders to remove the ex-president, the removal has been falsely referred to ever since as a “military coup” — by liberal journalists, the Obama Administration, the Carter Center, and the leftist regimes that now prevail in much of Latin America. Never mind that only soldiers, not police, would have enough manpower to remove a would-be dictator who was the most powerful man in his country, with his own bodyguards. Never mind that Honduran Constitution expressly vests the military — not police — with the power to enforce Constitutional guarantees like term limits, in Article 272. Or that the president forfeited his right to rule by proposing an end to term limits (Honduras has had such a problem with elected presidents later becoming “presidents for life” through vote fraud and intimidation that Article 239 of the Honduras Constitution strips presidents of the presidency if they even “propose” an end to term limits). Or that soldiers have occasionally been used to enforce court orders, even in the U.S., such as in the 1957 Little Rock desegregation order.

The ex-president’s removal was perfectly legal, say many lawyers and foreign policy experts, including attorneys Octavio Sanchez, Miguel Estrada, and Dan Miller, former Assistant Secretary of State Kim Holmes, Stanford's William Ratliff, and the Wall Street Journal’s Mary Anastasia O’Grady.

That no “military coup” occurred in Honduras has long been clear, from the fact that it is the Honduras’s Supreme Court and Congress that continue to object on legal grounds to the ex-president’s return, while the military has said that it will not block its return if Honduras’s courts or legislature conclude that the President’s return would in fact be legal. (Indeed, the military was a big loser in the ex-president’s ouster, since the U.S. promptly cut off military aid as a result, and Honduras is heavily reliant on foreign aid)

Confronted with the legal basis for removing the ex-president under his country’s constitution, the Obama Administration has responded with a series of increasingly ridiculous rationalizations for stubbornly seeking to force his return on the Honduran people.

Obama has argued that elected presidents have a right to continue ruling even if they violate their country’s constitution, and his assistant secretary of state argued that presidents should not be removed without elaborate “judicial process” (an argument at odds with our own Constitution’s provision for legislative impeachment, and Honduras’s constitutional provision automatically stripping presidents of their office if they even propose changes to constitutional term limits).

The Obama Administration earlier showed its ignorance by suggesting that Honduran legislators and judges lost their right to hold office when Honduras’s ex-president was removed. That’s like saying that after Richard Nixon resigned in Watergate, all of his judicial appointees (including the 4 Supreme Court justices he appointed, such as Harry Blackmun and William Rehnquist) should have automatically lost their posts, and the entire Congress should have resigned. In an effort to intimidate Honduras’s legislature and courts, Obama's State Department earlier rescinded the visas of a Honduran Supreme Court justice, the leader of Honduras’s Congress, and its human-rights ombudsman, who had criticized human-rights abuses and intimidation by the ex-president. State Department spokesman Ian Kelly justified the taking away of the visas by saying that “We don’t recognize Roberto Micheletti as the president of Honduras. We recognize Manuel Zelaya.”

But Congress and the Supreme Court are co-equal branches of government that do not lose their right to hold office merely because the president leaves his office. Presidents are not emperors. They are not the government, but merely part of it. Obama was not taught this bizarre theory of imperial power at Harvard Law School, which he and I both attended.

Obama’s demand that Obama reinstate its would-be dictator has emboldened other elected leaders in Latin America to try to make themselves dictators. (Even the liberal Washington Post, which has not endorsed a Republican for president since 1952, admits that Obama has shown a “willful disregard of political oppression” by left-wing dictators in Latin America).

There was no “coup” in Honduras. A coup is the sudden, illegal deposition of a legitimate government by a small group. The removal of Honduras’s president was supported by the entire Honduran Supreme Court, an almost unanimous Honduran Congress, and much of Honduran society. Honduras did not lose its government, but merely replaced one illegitimate part of it: its overbearing president. And his removal from office (as opposed to his subsequent exile) was clearly legally justified.

Given the substantial Honduran population in the U.S., and the fact that Hondurans frequently travel to and from the U.S. on business or to visit family members, the Obama Administration’s restrictions on their relatives’ right to travel are a serious encroachment on civil liberties.

Unlike the Washington Post, which has largely told the disturbing truth about Honduras’s ex-president (despite being a liberal paper), the wire services have often sugarcoated the terrible record in office of Honduras’s ex-president Zelaya, and his biggest supporter, the thuggish Venezuelan strongman Hugo Chavez.

For example, the Associated Press’s Morgan Lee and Alexandra Olson have given Zelaya and Chavez fawning coverage, claiming that it is only Latin America’s “elites” who object to them — a blatantly false claim, given that Zelaya was so unpopular among his own people that his approval rating was only 30 percent at the time of his removal. They called Chavez, who engaged in rampant vote fraud in his reelection bid (as well as censorship to silence critics and unfavorable publicity) “democratically elected.” Never mind that Chavez has shut down independent media, shot peaceful demonstrators, harassed elected mayors, and seized private property on a vast scale.

(Obama’s appointee to be the FCC’s “diversity officer” is a big fan of Venezuelan dictator Chavez, Mark Lloyd. Lloyd has called Marxist Venezuela a model, praised its authoritarian leader’s “incredible revolution” and defended his attacks on independent media. Obama’s nominee to be Assistant Secretary of State, Arturo Valenzuela, has a reputation as a loud defender of Venezuelan dictator Chavez’s terrible record on freedom of the press. Obama’s green-jobs czar, Van Jones, who is busy orchestrating advertiser boycotts of Obama’s media critics, was recently a “member of a radical communist group that was dedicated to ‘organizing a revolutionary movement in America.’”)

Ignorant of Honduran economic realities, the two AP reporters also made much of the fact that Honduras’s ex-president raised the minimum wage, even though many of the beneficiaries of this increase were not poor people, but rather well-off public employees whose pay is based on a large multiple of the minimum wage, and many of Honduras’s poor are not covered by minimum wage laws. Of those poor people who were covered, thousands lost their jobs when the minimum wage went up (since their employers could not afford to pay such increased wages for unskilled labor; a newspaper from the ex-president's own Liberal Party predicted that the minimum wage increase would lead to 40,000 lay-offs). By contrast, public employees in Honduras sometimes have collective bargaining agreements that set their pay as a multiple of the minimum wage, meaning that a middle-class bureaucrat may get a pay raise when the minimum wage goes up. Honduras’s ex-president also gave millions to his wealthy cronies, like the clownish buffoon Milton Jimenez.

Journalists nonsensically refer to Honduras’s removal of its ex-president as a “coup” even while admitting that it was ordered by the country’s supreme court. But if it was legal, by definition, it cannot be a coup, since a coup is "the unconstitutional overthrow of a legitimate government by a small group."


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KEYWORDS: bho44; bhoforeignpolicy; bholatinamerica; honduras
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1 posted on 08/30/2009 1:27:34 PM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

If the current crop of Marxist dicatators don’t stand by and defend one another, who will?


2 posted on 08/30/2009 1:29:14 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my country?)
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To: grundle
Violate court orders and the constitution by running for president after he's term limited out?

That's precisely what 0bama wants to do here.

Of course he wants to punish Honduras! He needs them to fold so he can use them as an international law precident!

3 posted on 08/30/2009 1:33:40 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 221 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: grundle
But if it was legal, by definition, it cannot be a coup, since a coup is "the unconstitutional overthrow of a legitimate government by a small group."

Would installing a president unconstitutionally qualified to hold that office count as a coup?

4 posted on 08/30/2009 1:39:40 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 221 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

This would be a good basis for the first criminal charges against Obama ~ to be placed immediately upon our recovery of the House of Representatives from the class enemy.


5 posted on 08/30/2009 1:46:14 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: null and void

Bummer should know it’s moot now. Top billing on every ballot in 2012 would not suffice to get him re-elected even once. He has succeeded in making Jimmy Carter look like a presidential genius. But this is worse, it’s as if Bummer got impeached and he had ACORN print up a bunch of phoney ballots for an irregular election which then was rigged to look like the people wanted Bummer back.


6 posted on 08/30/2009 1:46:49 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Barack Obama is a political suicide bomber and the Rats are political arsonists.)
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To: grundle
The Hondurans should invite Zelayla back. When he gets off the plane they should blindfold him, stand him up against a wall and fill him with lead. Afterward, they should put his corpse on trial according to the rules of their constitution, convict it of treason and take it out and shoot it — again. What would Zero do then?
7 posted on 08/30/2009 1:48:35 PM PDT by immadashell
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To: grundle

8 posted on 08/30/2009 1:49:08 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: grundle

More despicable actions by -11nobama.

Thank you very much for posting the entire article.


9 posted on 08/30/2009 1:58:36 PM PDT by upchuck (Neuter them in 2010 - Send them packing in 2012.)
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To: grundle

Is there no end to the depth of the insanievility (my word) of this poor excuse of a human being.

He is the antiChrist of this there is no doubt


10 posted on 08/30/2009 2:01:40 PM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (We the people, ..... never)
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To: upchuck

our residents name is now spelled OhBUMMER and it fits


11 posted on 08/30/2009 2:03:18 PM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (We the people, ..... never)
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To: grundle

Pray for Honduras.


12 posted on 08/30/2009 2:08:29 PM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: CPT Clay

I do not know much about the “Examiner” paper that published this...but if this is true, I have had enough. The time to stop the train has come.


13 posted on 08/30/2009 2:27:45 PM PDT by Republic (TORT REFORM....real reform...what are you waiting for democrats? Scared? lol)
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To: grundle
Obama punishes small country because its courts opposed dictatorial ex-president's return to power

0bama wants to dictator here, so he is showing "professional courtesy".

14 posted on 08/30/2009 2:28:26 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (FUBO - No socialist Bureaucrat on a Death Panel is going to decide whether I live or die!)
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To: don-o

Ping


15 posted on 08/30/2009 2:39:39 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: grundle
More Obama fascism.

But what he will find is that they will fly to Canada and take a bus or train into the USA.No Visa.

16 posted on 08/30/2009 2:42:08 PM PDT by Candor7 (The weapons of choice against fascism are ridicule ,derision ,trutth. (member NRA)
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To: grundle
0bama is Marxist scum. It is up to us to find a way to help Honduras.

How Can We Help honduras

17 posted on 08/30/2009 2:43:38 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: null and void

I think you’re right. I think obama feels a kinship with the would-be illegal President of Honduras, since obama knows deep down he is also an illegal President. Show us your real birth certificate obama! Which country is it from??? I think obama may be planning an illegal 2nd term. He’ll never get elected again, no state will let him on the ballot without absolute proof of eligibility. I fully believe he is capable of trying some stunt, national emergency, whatever that prevents an election.


18 posted on 08/30/2009 2:44:45 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: Candor7

why go through all that trouble just to visit obamerica? :/


19 posted on 08/30/2009 2:51:06 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama acted stupidly...and that's after knowing all the facts.)
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To: grundle
Zelaya in Honduras today, Obama in DC tomorrow.

He doesn't go peacefully, regardless of the paperwork.

Quickly, realize that the patterns of power don't change, before you are incinerated by them.

20 posted on 08/30/2009 2:51:06 PM PDT by John Titor
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