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This Point Cuts Both Ways
Townhall.com ^ | August 27, 2009 | David Harsanyi

Posted on 08/28/2009 4:47:44 AM PDT by Kaslin

Forget death panels. If you're really interested in putting a stop to the public option (and some truly entertaining town hall meetings), let's talk circumcision panels.

Growing up in the Jewish faith, I witnessed my fair share of 7-day-olds taken from their parents to face scalpel, prayer and barbaric snip. Why seven days? Undoubtedly, the number of Jewish boys converting to Methodism grows exponentially each day the foreskin remains attached.

According to Genesis, God commanded 99-year-old Abraham to circumcise himself, everyone in his household, and even his slaves -- as they, apparently, didn't have enough on their plates -- to close the covenant. Those who were not circumcised were removed, as it were, from this holy deal with God.

Now people at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (those folks who often carry themselves as if they, too, had the ear of the Lord) are mulling a national campaign to promote "universal circumcision" for all boys in the United States in an effort to reduce the spread of HIV. Additionally, as The New York Times reported this week, the CDC is thinking about expanding the campaign to target promiscuous adult heterosexual men. (Abstinence or circumcision? How quickly do you think sex becomes overrated?)

Newborn circumcision rates are at 65 percent but have dropped for decades since just after World War II, when they were at more than 80 percent. This might be partially attributable to immigration of non-circumcising populations. There are also various movements afoot that question both the health benefits and the morality of slicing a newborn.

I do not possess any ironclad opinion on the topic of circumcision -- and perhaps not so coincidentally, I also do not have a son. Many of you, I assume, are foreskin-neutral.

Studies suggest that circumcision can help prevent HIV, though it has not shown to help those with the greatest risk, men having sex with men. One also suspects -- or perhaps hopes -- that ancient cultures simultaneously concocted the circumcision ritual because, through some instinctual trigger, they sensed it was hygienically beneficial.

Here's the problem: Why is the CDC launching campaigns to "universally" promote a medical procedure? If you're an adult (and nuts) or a parent, no one stands in your way of having a bris. Today 79 percent of men are circumcised already, and even if 100 percent were, the effect on the collective health of the nation would be negligible. If this is the standard, where does it stop?

And what would a proactive CDC mean if government operated health insurance? No, I don't believe Washington would deploy a phalanx of grinning, twisted doctors to perform coerced circumcisions. But when the CDC dispenses medical advice of the "universal" brand, it's difficult to accept that a government-run public insurance outfit wouldn't heed advice and act accordingly.

What if the CDC, through meticulous study, were to realize that circumcision is an entirely worthless procedure? Why would "we" waste $400 a pop? Would the CDC campaign to "universally remove" the operation from hospitals? Today, incidentally, government-run Medicaid doesn't pay for the procedure in 16 states. Most private insurers, on the other hand, do.

Though dismissed by public-option proponents, this is an example of how government persuasion can influence our decisions -- first by nudging and then, inevitably, by rationing.

The larger, more pertinent point for today is that government has zero business running campaigns -- and these things inevitably turn into scaremongering efforts -- that try to influence our choices regarding our children and our bodies. Especially when the procedure has so little to do with society's collective health. Circumcision is a personal choice.

Well, a personal choice for everyone except that poor little sucker lying on the chopping block.


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1 posted on 08/28/2009 4:47:44 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I agree. The government should keep its hands, and its knives, out of our pants.


2 posted on 08/28/2009 4:58:04 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: Kaslin

...from my cold, dead hand.


3 posted on 08/28/2009 5:08:12 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks Right-Wing.)
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To: Kaslin

As someone without a foreskin, I think having one would be a little weird. Why seven days? Because its a lot less painful and tramatic than doing it when the kid is older. [Duh] Frankly, I’ve never heard of any health concerns or “accidents” resulting from circumsizing newborns.


4 posted on 08/28/2009 5:12:50 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: Kaslin

I suspect that the ‘ritual’ sprung out of the despair of parents whose sons were dying or becoming horribly and wretchedly disfigured from early childhood infections, arising, from what could be discerned, from over-abundant foreskin, a cess-pool of bacteria-laden flesh.

Maybe so, and probably not a real concern today.


5 posted on 08/28/2009 5:14:16 AM PDT by perchprism
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To: rbg81; Kaslin
As someone without a foreskin, I think having one would be a little weird. Why seven days? Because its a lot less painful and tramatic than doing it when the kid is older. [Duh] Frankly, I’ve never heard of any health concerns or “accidents” resulting from circumsizing newborns.

I guess your medical knowledge is as extensive as your foreskin, ha ha.
6 posted on 08/28/2009 5:15:31 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Kaslin
I worked with a guy in Silicon Valley who's head was so warped by being without that he found a surgeon that would restore it. He was gone and came back after about three weeks. I will say he was a changed guy and had more confidence etc. Kind of a weird thing.
7 posted on 08/28/2009 5:16:50 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit The law will be followed, dammit!)
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To: Kaslin

Playing the scalpel card.


8 posted on 08/28/2009 5:32:01 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: perchprism
Actually, I think it's done because the Bible more or less says that the first thing the Messiah will say when he comes (or as many like me believe he comes back) is "OK, boys, drop 'em!"

Mosaic covenant and all that stuff.

9 posted on 08/28/2009 5:59:25 AM PDT by katana
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To: Kaslin
This article makes me want to cry because of the ignorance of the author about circumcision both as a Jewish rite and as a public health measure.

First, the Bris is held on the 8th day, not the 7th. And though circumcision is part of the story of Abraham in Genesis, the command for the rite comes from Exodus. If he had actually like read Torah and maybe asked a question or two, the Rabbi's happily explain all about this.. so his profession of ignorance is just that and a bit of laziness on top.

This practice and its meaning are complex and have little meaning for non-jewish persons on the surface.

However, like so many other Jewish practices, there is a deep pragmatism that seems to accompany many of the commandments that have meaning for all. And circumcision has as many pro arguments as con and public health specialists have in the past strongly encouraged the practice from a practical standpoint, and still do.

Nevertheless, this is and should be a personal choice based on information, and not on hyperbole like the author of this piece is selling.

10 posted on 08/28/2009 6:07:49 AM PDT by dalight
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To: Kaslin

Why eight days? there is a medical reason. See http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/2204.

On the eighth day, the amount of prothrombin present actually is elevated above one-hundred percent of normal—and is the only day in the male’s life in which this will be the case under normal conditions. If surgery is to be performed, day eight is the perfect day to do it. Vitamin K and prothrombin levels are at their peak


11 posted on 08/28/2009 5:40:42 PM PDT by BigRed9
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