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From 'Yes, We Can' to 'No! Don't!'(Obama...has united the Republican Party)
http://online.wsj.com ^ | AUGUST 15, 2009 | By PEGGY NOONAN

Posted on 08/16/2009 3:38:18 PM PDT by Maelstorm

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What a disaster this health-care debate is. It strains, stresses and pierces, it unnecessarily agitates and is doomed to be the cause of further agitation. Who doubts the final bill will be something between a pig in a poke and three-card Monte?

Which is too bad, because our health-care system actually needs to be made better. ***

There are smart and experienced people who say whatever the mess right now, the president will get a bill of some sort because he has the brute numeric majority. A rising number say no, this thing has roused such ire he won't get much if anything. I don't know, but this is true: If he wins it, will be a victory not worth having. It will have cost too much. It has lessened the thing an admired president must have from the people, and that is trust.

It is divisive save in one respect. The Obama White House has done the near impossible: It has united the Republican Party. Social conservatives, economic conservatives, libertarians—they're all against the health-care schemes as presented so far. They're shoulder-to-shoulder at the barricade again. ***

The president's town-hall meeting on Tuesday in Portsmouth, N.H., was supposed to be an antidote to the fractious town halls with members of Congress the past weeks. But it was not peaceful, only somnolent. Actually it was a bit of a disaster. It looked utterly stacked, with softball after softball thrown by awed and supportive citizens. When George W. Bush did town halls like that—full of people who'd applaud if he said tomorrow we bring democracy to Saturn—it was considered a mark of manipulation and insecurity. And it was. So was Mr. Obama's.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: care; health; noonan; noyoucant; obama; obamacare; romney; romneybot4obama; romneycare; sourcetitlenoturl; yeswecan
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I don't know what has happened to Noonan in her old age but she has managed to hide a gem in a truckload of manure.
1 posted on 08/16/2009 3:38:18 PM PDT by Maelstorm
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2 posted on 08/16/2009 3:40:38 PM PDT by Kansas58
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Don’t fall for this false sense of security folks. This is the new talking points. Noonan and the beltway conservatives are going to declare Obamacare defeated in which it’ll be passed when nobody’s looking. Remember that Noonan has no credibility. She voted for the Kenyan.


3 posted on 08/16/2009 3:41:55 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("It (Gov't) can't make you happier, healthier, wealthier, and wise" - Sarah Palin 07/26)
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Shut up, Peggy.


4 posted on 08/16/2009 3:43:24 PM PDT by hemogoblin (Obama - The Potentate of Parasites)
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To: Maelstorm
Gosh, did Peggy forget to drink the koolaid for this column??? :-)

She's right on a lot of points for a change! Especially the one about HolyO "winning" a victory by sheer numbers of demmies in Congress--it will be a

Pyrrhic victory: a victory with devastating cost to the victor.

I predict that HolyO loses MAJOR political 'capital' over this whole debacle!
5 posted on 08/16/2009 3:43:43 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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No, on the contrary SCREW THE GOP too, Peggy!!

We The People DEMAND honest representation, and get neither from the DNC nor the GOP.

Washington DC needs an enema, which includes K Street and all you Beltway elitists with them!!

6 posted on 08/16/2009 3:46:06 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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United the Rep party to do what? Recognize that a collapsing financial system is not compatible with ANY spending program? Agree with Dims that socialist modeled Healthcare Co-ops are viable? Jump on a contrived, false climate change initiative? Only a few Dems and a few more in the Rep party have a clue...they are not in adequate numbers, and a frightened Ob may try to avoid the potential results of a 2010 election season, given the ‘AWAKENING’ by the public.


7 posted on 08/16/2009 3:46:14 PM PDT by givemELL (Does Taiwan Meet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
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I think she is pompous. She writes like a woman who is very depressed. I think she is probably over medicated but she is partially right. We are united and more and more people see Obama has just another far left liberal.


8 posted on 08/16/2009 3:46:23 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Bigger government is not reform.)
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Shut up, Peggy.

DITTO!

She can KMA! I don't care what she says/writes. She is no friend to conservatives. Especially after her attacks on Sarah Palin I don't read anything she writes.

9 posted on 08/16/2009 3:46:47 PM PDT by kcvl
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Better watch out, noonan. Your president may find your lack of faith disturbing.


10 posted on 08/16/2009 3:47:25 PM PDT by Vision Thing (He has a white house, and he wants to paint it black.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Not only voted but supported odumbo in print many times


11 posted on 08/16/2009 3:47:58 PM PDT by italianquaker (“Every inch of this Administration is rife with corruption and cronyism.” --- Michelle Malkin)
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JUST KILL THE BILL


12 posted on 08/16/2009 3:51:30 PM PDT by The Wizard (Democrat Party: a criminal enterprise)
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Joker touches third rail, is electoracuted.


13 posted on 08/16/2009 3:54:52 PM PDT by ArtyFO (I love to smoke cigars when I adjust artillery fire at the moonbat loonery.)
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I don't know if she's depressed or not. She sure as hell does go on though. Can't seem to get enough of herself.
14 posted on 08/16/2009 3:56:12 PM PDT by skimbell
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Obamacare was brought to us by Peggy Noonan, Obama and Romney.

Ms. Noonan "sleeps" with both.


15 posted on 08/16/2009 3:56:34 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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She is a wordsmith not a political science genius. It’s like a lot of the Packers after Lombardi left, she was great because her great boss gave her direction/discipline.


16 posted on 08/16/2009 3:59:36 PM PDT by madameguinot (Our Father's God to Thee, Author of Liberty)
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Noonan is just another skank, propagandist and sometimes whining loud mouth from Washington DC…do you really want me to tell you what I believe.


17 posted on 08/16/2009 3:59:53 PM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: The Wizard

I agree. Any bill will just be an incremental step towards nationalized healthcare. Some insurance reform, tort reform, Medicare/Medicaid oversite—a few tweeks to the system is all that is needed. NO government involvement in our healthcare! If anything, we need limited government and a dialing down of Federal Government power.


18 posted on 08/16/2009 4:00:28 PM PDT by Fu-fu2
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19 posted on 08/16/2009 4:00:57 PM PDT by 4rcane
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If she thinks Obama united the Republican party, then, perhaps she knows that Obama also united a lot of democrats with republicans against this horrendous bill. This has little to do with uniting the republican party, but everything to do with the potential destruction of the United States, no matter what your political standing is. RINOS will still be RINOS, in most other areas, and that is what’s dividing the party.


20 posted on 08/16/2009 4:02:03 PM PDT by Jaidyn
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