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White House Appears Open To Insurance Co-Ops ["Bi-Partisan Consensus" Expected?]
NYTimes ^ | August 16, 2009

Posted on 08/16/2009 2:29:50 PM PDT by Steelfish

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To: Steelfish

These assholes want a ANYTHING because they will then be able to add to it and get what they want. Not this year, but in the next two or three.


41 posted on 08/16/2009 3:08:02 PM PDT by mortal19440
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To: Steelfish
From the AP article:

Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson, D-Texas, said it would be difficult to pass any legislation through the Democratic-controlled Congress without the promised public plan.

"We'll have the same number of people uninsured," she said. "If the insurance companies wanted to insure these people now, they'd be insured."

Hopefully, enough Liberals will pissed at this "compromise", that it won't pass.

42 posted on 08/16/2009 3:10:01 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Steelfish

The Democrats did not let President Bush have any kind of victory with privatizing Socical Security. Why should Republicans do any different?


43 posted on 08/16/2009 3:13:22 PM PDT by Tai_Chung
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To: Steelfish
They are talking about Co-ops on Fox Cable right now.

It sounds like these will be run by private citizens - Like any other Co-0p.

The problem that I see, is that the initial money is provided by the GOVERNMENT & it's not clear if it will be paid back or not.

You know what happened when the auto industry & the banks took GOVERNMENT money!! The same GOVERNMENT puts rules in on HOW it is run...so what's the difference between doing this & having Obama's plan?

44 posted on 08/16/2009 3:13:59 PM PDT by LADY J (Change your thoughts and you change your world. - Norman Vincent Peale)
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To: Steelfish

...it looks like the Republicans have already flashed a green light on this.

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Well then it’s time we, their great unwashed constituency, “flash” them with something loud and bright. Fire-up those faxes, e-mails, smith-coronas and #2’s, ladies and gents!

Here are several good “talking points” (which have been talked about here, there, and everywhere except the exalted halls of congress): http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204251404574342170072865070.html


45 posted on 08/16/2009 3:14:55 PM PDT by fullchroma (GET OUT OF MY DOCTOR'S OFFICE!)
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To: Steelfish

Two words: Trojan horse


46 posted on 08/16/2009 3:18:33 PM PDT by browniexyz
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To: Repeal 16-17

The same destination regardless. Just a different color vehicle. Compromise is just another word for bait and switch.


47 posted on 08/16/2009 3:28:49 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Bigger government is not reform.)
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To: indylindy
NO

Not only NO, but HELL NO!

This is unbelievable but not unexpected.

DEAR LEADER and the Rats are so anxious to pass something (ANYTHING) so they can show the Fascist-in-Chief, (pretending) he did something for the sheeple, they will resort to ANY tactic or underhanded sleight-of-hand.

THEY ARE NOT TO BE TRUSTED!

Sadly, while we (the Conservatives, not the Pubes in Congress) have them on the ropes, those F'N asssholes are going to cave in the spirit of "Bi-Partisanship."

WILL THEY NEVER LEARN????

48 posted on 08/16/2009 3:30:25 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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The goal of the Socialists is to implement a 'bipartisan" simple and basic framework. The rest of their master plan would be incrimentalized into the framework later.

In the end, the master goal is achieved. Blue Dogs and Moderate R's NEVER learn from their mistakes. They are the Socialists best friends as useful idiots in their implementation of agendas.

49 posted on 08/16/2009 3:32:52 PM PDT by R_Kangel (`.`)
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To: Steelfish

Sebelius is the sensitive person who praised the SEIU.


50 posted on 08/16/2009 3:37:33 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Yes, we disagree - no, we won't shut up - no, we won't quit.)
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To: FrankR

How about,

’ Save a Life, Kill the Bill’


51 posted on 08/16/2009 3:38:06 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Steelfish

I don’t think so. The Poacher in chief is after sitting duck. Press your advantage you damn Republicans!


52 posted on 08/16/2009 3:38:26 PM PDT by februus
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet
WILL THEY NEVER LEARN????

YES, unless we teach each and every time they are about to screw up.

53 posted on 08/16/2009 3:46:01 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: LADY J

I seriously doubt the Obama Administration would have put forward this notion of the non-profit Co-ops unless they had the firm back-room handshake from the Republican leadership.

This is why the NY Times makes reference to “bi-partisan consensus” as the basis for this idea. Obama has vowed to make Health Care “Reform” his signature piece and insists that he’d do it before the end of this year.

I fear Obama, Axelrod, and Emanuel may just have found the crack in the Republican armor to do this.


54 posted on 08/16/2009 3:50:12 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

10,000 times NO.


55 posted on 08/16/2009 3:52:27 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Steelfish

Get the camel’s nose in the tent and then move everyone else out.


56 posted on 08/16/2009 4:04:55 PM PDT by cowtowney
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To: Steelfish

The GOP is going to find some bi-partisan solution, which means they’ll find a way to get taxpayer money to their own special interest groups and try to sell it to the rest of us unwashed as a good bill. Once again, the GOP will snatch defeat from the jaws of a conservative victory. A pox on both their houses!


57 posted on 08/16/2009 4:15:54 PM PDT by DeuceTraveler (Freedom is a never ending struggle)
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To: Steelfish

Insurance CoOps are a “backdoor” approach to the “public option”.

How long will it be before the Leftists find a problem with how the CoOps are run and pass legislation to essentially take them over - and run them the “government way”? Thus putting insurance companies out of business - which is what they wanted all along.

Less than 2 years is my bet!!!


58 posted on 08/16/2009 4:22:59 PM PDT by HardStarboard ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule - Mencken knew Obama)
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To: Steelfish
They were not able to shove it through before we all found out what was in it. So we know what Obama's core belief is & also we've heard enough about the czars that he appointed.

There is no way - no how that we can believe they have done a U-Turn & now they no longer want to have their original health plan.They are feverishly working overtime to reword & repackage this abomination.

Once the trust is gone - there is no turning back for 'WE THE PEOPLE'.

We want ALL the politicians to keep their paws off our health care. If they were honestly concerned about our health & welfare - Medicare would not keep getting robbed for them to spend for their wish lists.

They can start by seriously investigating all the fraud in Medicare & Medicaid. Now, they want to add illegals & everyone else they can think of - to be paid for by honest working people.

None of them know what they are doing. They are not health care providers - most have never run a business. They are the last people that need to be dismanteling the best health care system in the world!

We need to have double & triple numbers of people marching in the streets against it.

Just because Obama decided that it's the STAR of his administration means nothing to the rest of us. It will only stroke his ego to get more catastrophies passed.

59 posted on 08/16/2009 4:26:27 PM PDT by LADY J (Change your thoughts and you change your world. - Norman Vincent Peale)
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To: Steelfish
This was their plan all along - push for the impossible, then go for the real deal.

HELL NO!!

60 posted on 08/16/2009 5:07:46 PM PDT by Florida native
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